And Now, a Force of Nature: Chaka Khan, Tiny Desk Concert

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This Black Music Month, Tiny Desk is giving the ladies their flowers. We’re releasing nine Tiny Desk concerts from Black women artists, from veterans who’ve paved the way for what we hear today in Black music, to those who are carving out their own paths.

Mitra I. Arthur | June 11, 2024
When the “Queen of Funk,” Chaka Khan, began to sing her hit “Sweet Thing” at the Tiny Desk, she seemed surprised at how the audience enthusiastically joined in. It’s just one example of how ingrained her work is in the fabric of music history. Since she emerged in the 1970s with the funk band Rufus, Khan has crafted a legacy that includes 22 albums, 10 Grammys, forays into jazz and theater and collaborations with Prince, Stevie Wonder, Joni Mitchell and Quincy Jones. Her 50 years in the music industry recently culminated in a long overdue 2023 induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

The moment guitarist Rob Bacon opened the set on the talk box, with bassist Melvin Davis and drummer Jay Williams laying down the beat, it was clear we were about to get a lesson in some naaaasty funk with “Tell Me Something Good.” If the way our in-office audience was jamming to “What Cha’ Gonna Do For Me,” and “Ain’t Nobody” is any indication, be prepared to watch this show in a location where you can comfortably groove. “Sweet Thing” showcased vocalist Tiffany Smith killing the most iconic (and most vocally difficult) moment in the song, something that has humbled many a singer.

And what better way to close out this Tiny Desk during a month celebrating the contributions of Black women in music than with the anthem that has empowered woman-identified audiences for decades: the Nickolas Ashford and Valerie Simpson penned “I’m Every Woman.”Throughout the set, I’m reminded that Khan’s unfathomably big and powerful voice is a glue that holds intergenerational music together.

SET LIST
“Tell Me Something Good”
“What Cha’ Gonna Do For Me”
“Stay”
“Sweet Thing”
“Through the Fire”
“Ain’t Nobody”
“I’m Every Woman”

MUSICIANS
Chaka Khan: lead vocals
Melvin Davis: bass, musical direction
Jesse Milliner: keys
Rob Bacon: guitar
Euro Zambrano: percussion
Jay Williams: drums
Audrey Wheeler-Downing: vocals
Tiffany Smith: vocals
Trina Broussard: vocals

TINY DESK TEAM
Producers: Bobby Carter, Mitra I. Arthur
Director/Editor: Joshua Bryant
Audio Technical Director: Neil Tevault
Videographers: Joshua Bryant, Maia Stern, Kara Frame, Alanté Serene
Audio Engineer: Hannah Gluvna
Production Assistant: Ashley Pointer
Photographer: Zayrha Rodriguez
Animation: Jackie Lay
Florist: Kelanda Edwards
Tiny Desk Copy Editor: Hazel Cills
Executive Producer: Suraya Mohamed
Series Creators: Bob Boilen, Stephen Thompson
VP, Visuals and Music: Keith Jenkins

#nprmusic #tinydesk #chakakhan

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286 comments
1
Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:00:13pm

Oh, Florida:

‘Challenges our authority’: School board in Florida bans book about book bans

Indian River County School Board members said they disliked how it referenced other books that had been removed from schools and accused it of “teaching rebellion of school board authority.”

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:03:39pm

Chaka Khan jumped onstage and jammed several times with the George Duke band way back in the 17th century, and I was always blown away by the power of her voice. It cut right through all the amplified instruments.

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:11:31pm

@peark.es

#OH06
special election tonight…results for the three counties that are done counting vs 2020

Harrison R+28 vs R+52
Monroe R+20 vs R+53
Noble R+28 vs R+63

For context raw votes cast are about 15% of what they were in that election.

The Dem just got within 6 points in Washington County. Trump won there by 40 points in 2020.

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TedStriker  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:25:12pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

Chaka Khan jumped onstage and jammed several times with the George Duke band way back in the 17th century, and I was always blown away by the power of her voice. It cut right through all the amplified instruments.

Listening to that Tiny Desk, it’s plain that age has made Khan’s voice a little deeper and more difficult for her to hit those higher notes she was known for, but, otherwise, she’s still got it. When “Sweet Thing” started up and everyone behind the camera started singing, that was great.

You want to see and hear her in her prime, there’s always her and Rufus’ appearances on The Midnight Special:

Tell Me Something Good - Rufus | The Midnight Special

You Got The Love - Rufus | The Midnight Special


Once You Get Started - Rufus | The Midnight Special


I Am Woman - Rufus | The Midnight Special


We Can Work It Out - Rufus | The Midnight Special


Pack’d My Bags - Rufus | The Midnight Special

Fool’s Paradise - Rufus | The Midnight Special

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:25:53pm

@iboudreau.bsky.social

This is a hall of famer

Fanta-astic!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:28:27pm

re: #5 jaunte

I’m surprised those liars aren’t claiming that’s adrenochrome Joe is drinking…

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:31:00pm

Some of the Never-Trumpers I’m OK with. George Conway, for example. He seems like a decent guy. But Sykes, Stevens, et al? Not OK. With me at least.

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ericblair  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:32:01pm

re: #3 jaunte

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:32:36pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Conway is someone I could definitely hang out with. I really like Sykes’ sarcasm and sense of humor.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:34:05pm

Another Alito recording surfaces.

New Audio: Alito Bashes ProPublica for Reporting on Supreme Court Ethics

In a new, secret recording, the Supreme Court justice suggests partisan funding is to blame for coverage of justices’ undisclosed luxury gifts

Bullshit you racist greedy bastard. He needs to be forced off the court along with Thomas.

rollingstone.com

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:34:49pm

re: #8 ericblair

I hope the women (and anyone who cares for them) in Ohio are fully awake to the danger they’re in by October.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:35:35pm

Charlie Sykes blocked me on Twitter when I criticized his far right history and challenged him to do better.

As many of the pre-Trump right wing champions have done.

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wrenchwench  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:36:52pm

What’s the keyboardist got on his head? Looks like he’s being assimilated. (Is he the horn section?)

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:37:23pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

They refuse to acknowledge that their own ideology and practical social engineering helped lead to Trump.

Trump is a symptom, as I keep repeating.

The underlying problem is that people are afraid of the 21st century and refuse to change.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:37:35pm

They don’t like hearing from people like me, who saw the shit coming and tried to wake them the fuck up.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:38:27pm

I could hang out with Tim Miller too.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:42:02pm

There are/were many like Sykes.

Limbaugh-wannabes, the 1980’s and 1990’s produced many talk-show hosts who jumped on atavist trains.

After 9/11, these people found new energy in hating Muslims.

Then when Obama came along they cashed in on the black-man-problem.

Now they act surprised that Trump is a drooling clown who is trying to make the US whole-hog fascist.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:42:33pm

OY: Y’all send some good thoughts and juju to my friend Sydney.

She’s a smart and talented young girl who recently graduated college.

She lost her father unexpectedly two days ago.

She absolutely adored her father and, with Father’s Day this Sunday, the timing couldn’t be any fucking worse.

Syd is strong, but she’s having a rough time of it right now. 💔

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:43:11pm

re: #8 ericblair

When Ohio 6 swings 31 points to the Democrats what will Republicans do?

Criswell Bacon predicts they will double down on their adherence to Radical Right Xtianity.

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steve_davis  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:46:36pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:47:05pm

LOL wut?

In ruling that bong water is a drug mixture, the Minnesota Supreme Court justices relied, in part, on the testimony of a state patrol officer who claimed that drug users keep bong water “for future use… either drinking it or shooting it in the veins.”

— Minnesota Reformer (@mnreformer.bsky.social) 2024-06-11T13:41:13.300Z

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TedStriker  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:49:56pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL wut?

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:50:21pm

re: #10 Joe Bacon ✅

Another Alito recording surfaces.

New Audio: Alito Bashes ProPublica for Reporting on Supreme Court Ethics

In a new, secret recording, the Supreme Court justice suggests partisan funding is to blame for coverage of justices’ undisclosed luxury gifts

Bullshit you racist greedy bastard. He needs to be forced off the court along with Thomas.

rollingstone.com

How dare you secretly record our illegal activites

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:50:55pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Qualified Immunity To Reality

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:54:31pm

Henry Wallace was right about the real effects that the Cold War would bring about. 70 years later we see that all it did indeed accomplish was disaster for the people (of the world) and enriching the coffers of the war machine.

But there was another effect that Wallace did not envision: that the Cold War would embed, deeply, a political structure whereby atavists could claim any change was in effect “communism”.

Every atavist the past 75 years or so have played that card.

The religious right, Reagan, the whole lot… are the children of the Cold War.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:56:09pm

alternet.org

Liberal journalist and documentary filmmaker Lauren Windsor released audio on Monday, June 10, from a conversation she had Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito last week during the Supreme Court Historical Society’s annual dinner, in which Windsor posed as a devout Catholic.

In the audio, Alito confirmed his conservative Christian bias by saying he “believes there are ‘fundamental’ differences between the left and the right that ‘can’t be compromised,’ and agreeing the nation needs to return to ‘godliness.’”

Windsor didn’t stop there.

On Tuesday, the progressive journalist shared shared another audio clip Tuesday night via X, writing:

EXCLUSIVE UNDERCOVER AUDIO feat. the debut of my colleague @Ally_Sammarco: Alito v @ProPublica

Windsor asked the justice: “Why do you think the Supreme Court is being so targeted by the media these days?

Alito replied: “Well, I think it’s a simple reason. They don’t like our decisions. And they don’t like how they anticipate we may decide some cases that are coming up. That’s the beginning of the end of it, and there are groups that are vey well funded by ideological groups that have spearheaded these attacks. That’s what it is.”

Windsor asked: “Like who?”

Alito replied: “Pro-Publica. Pro-Publica gets a lot of money, and they have spent a fortune investigating Clarence Thomas, for example. You know everything he’s ever done in his entire life, and they’ve done some of that to me, too. But the look for any little thing they can find, and they try to make something out of it. That’s it. That’s what it is.”

and this time I have to link to Shitter so you can hear the audio

x.com

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:57:39pm

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 6:58:03pm
Rebecca Grossman, a wealthy California socialite and philanthropist, was sentenced Monday to 15 years to life in prison for the deaths of two young brothers in a Los Angeles crosswalk in 2020.

Grossman, 60, was convicted by a jury in February on two counts of murder, vehicular manslaughter and gross negligence in the deaths of Mark Iskander, 11, and Jacob Iskander, 8, and an additional count of hit-and-run driving resulting in death.

Prosecutors had pushed for the maximum sentence of 34 years to life. Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascón on Monday said he was “deeply disappointed with the outcome.” Grossman was ordered to pay $47,161.89 in restitution to the victims’ family.

(more)

Socialite gets 15 years to life for L.A. hit-and-run that killed 2 boys (Washington Post, yesterday)

“Grossman Burn Foundation co-founder Rebecca Grossman struck Jacob Iskander, 8, and his brother Mark, 11, with her car in a Los Angeles crosswalk.”

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:00:07pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL wut?

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Last bong water experience I had was opening my car door to have the bong fall out and spill bong water on the CHP officer’s feet…that was 40 years ago. He warn’t happy.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:00:47pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

They don’t like hearing from people like me, who saw the shit coming and tried to wake them the fuck up.

A lot of Never-Trumpers only bothered to wake up when the crazy shit they enabled for decades affected them personally.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:04:18pm

Thread of five posts.

Bombshell in France: Head of Les Républicains, the party of the traditional conservatives who long ruled France, just announced he’d accept a coalition deal with Le Pen’s far-right party.

Unprecedented in national French politics. It'd be a huge collapse of the barrier against the RN.

— Taniel (@taniel.bsky.social) 2024-06-11T12:42:55.986Z

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:07:07pm

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:10:15pm

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:12:14pm

re: #33 Patricia Kayden

All by design.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:13:57pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:14:20pm

re: #25 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

You would think they would learn from history rather than be slaves to it.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:16:01pm

One of my high school friends put this up on facebook:

Not all of us over 50 Texans are bad.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:17:55pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

What could the parties of Le Pen and DeGaulle have in common, except for the obvious stuff like “putting Mediterranean and Sahel Africans in their place”?/

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:19:48pm

re: #26 Joe Bacon ✅

Clarence Thomas, for example. You know everything he’s ever done in his entire life, and they’ve done some of that to me, too. But they look for any little thing they can find, and they try to make something out of

$4,000,000 is “any little thing”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:20:51pm

Don’t call Republicans racists. That’s not “civil.” This would be the state where more than 40% of all enslaved people were forced into the country.

The South Carolina Department of Education said AP African American studies will not be offered in the state’s schools anymore

— Phil Lewis (@phillewis.bsky.social) 2024-06-10T15:06:55.232Z

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:21:51pm

re: #39 Dangerman

$4,000,000 is “any little thing”

A loan on a six-figure RV that was “settled” is “any little thing.”

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:22:10pm

re: #39 Dangerman

$4,000,000 is “any little thing”

Or having an unaccountable Christian Nationalist radical as a SCOTUS justice.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:22:43pm

re: #31 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives seem incapable of learning.

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:30:19pm

re: #39 Dangerman

$4,000,000 is “any little thing”

By Republican-donor standards?
Yeah: couch-cushion change….

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The Ghost of a Flea  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:31:23pm

re: #43 Romantic Heretic

The authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives seem incapable of learning.

That’s giving them too much credit.

They know exactly what they’re signing up for, they’re just willing to make the wager because they’ll be the least-bloodied for the most gain. Kind of like the Franco and Salazar goon-families that still thrive off of capital scraped in by fascist shenanigans.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:44:39pm

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Don’t call Republicans racists. That’s not “civil.” This would be the state where more than 40% of all enslaved people were forced into the country.

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Yep. Charleston specifically

From the seventeenth to nineteenth centuries, Charleston and the surrounding Carolina Lowcountry region epitomized a slave society. Chattel slavery, the trans-Atlantic slave trade, and the domestic slave trade each played central roles in the Lowcountry’s economy, labor structure, and social hierarchy. Scholars estimate that over forty percent of all enslaved Africans sent to North America entered through Charleston Harbor — making Charleston the largest North American point of disembarkation for the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

This well known ad appeared in the South Carolina Gazette in May 1769. I guess SC students won’t be seeing it as often now.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:46:42pm

(8:59)

I Told You This Was Going To Happen

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:50:41pm

re: #19 Joe Bacon ✅

When Ohio 6 swings 31 points to the Democrats what will Republicans do?

Criswell Bacon predicts they will double down on their adherence to Radical Right Xtianity.

Result from Tuscarawas County, OH

Trump carried it 69-29% in 2020
Dem carried it 56-44 today.

+27 Democratic swing

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:52:59pm

re: #19 Joe Bacon ✅

When Ohio 6 swings 31 points to the Democrats what will Republicans do?

Criswell Bacon predicts they will double down on their adherence to Radical Right Xtianity.

Invent more voter restrictions. “Voter’s are only allowed to vote on the day of the week they are born on unless they voted for the governor in the previous election.”

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:54:20pm

re: #48 Dangerman

Result from Tuscarawas County, OH

Trump carried it 69-29% in 2020
Dem carried it 56-44 today.

+27 Democratic swing

Jesus H. Fucking Christ, it’s a massacre out there.

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retired cynic  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:54:47pm

re: #48 Dangerman

Result from Tuscarawas County, OH

Trump carried it 69-29% in 2020
Dem carried it 56-44 today.

+27 Democratic swing

That is GRR-eat!!

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:55:39pm

re: #37 Belafon

One of my high school friends put this up on facebook:

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Not all of us over 50 Texans are bad.

Reposted to my facebook.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:56:27pm

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:56:41pm

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jaunte  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:56:53pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s the audio version of that smeary texture the AI imagery has.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:57:01pm

re: #53 William Lewis

Vinyl record speeds.

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Ace Rothstein  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:57:39pm

re: #54 William Lewis

Oh great. They turned the Cheerios gay.
/

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 7:57:52pm

re: #56 Ace Rothstein

Vinyl record speeds.

Rare to see the 16 2/3 tho (spoken word only IIRC)

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:00:49pm

I told that story about seeing the motorcycle for sale the other day. Saw it still there (guessing he wants too much or there’s something wrong - been there too long)
but made it today’s picture anyway:

Just a snapshot but it keeps the daily streak going.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:09:39pm

Love this reply:

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:19:07pm

re: #43 Romantic Heretic

The authoritarians and barbarians masquerading as conservatives seem incapable of learning.

Isn’t the question really: Aren’t conservatives basically authoritarians who pretend to support compromise until they finally uncover a strategy or a leader that allows them complete control?

Stuart Stevens in his 2020 book “It was all a lie” admits his role in what led to the Trump takeover of the party — Trump was not the cause, he was a symptom of what the party had become.

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sagehen  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:21:04pm

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

LOL wut?

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When I was in college, we saved the bong water to fill water balloons, that we threw at… you know what, never mind. Forget I said anything.

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:21:40pm

Holy shit…I didn’t realize Gemini 8 had a sunroof.

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Dangerman  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:21:44pm

re: #61 Hecuba’s daughter

Isn’t the question really: Aren’t conservatives basically authoritarians who pretend to support compromise until they finally uncover a strategy or a leader that allows them complete control?

Stuart Stevens in his 2020 book “It was all a lie” admits his role in what led to the Trump takeover of the party — Trump was not the cause, he was a symptom of what the party had become.

Yes the problem was they rolled over
They let him

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darthstar  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:21:59pm

I guess that was the original T top.

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TedStriker  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:29:26pm

re: #63 darthstar

Holy shit…I didn’t realize Gemini 8 had a sunroof.

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re: #65 darthstar

I guess that was the original T top.

The Gemini capsules, compared to the “Spam-in-a-can” Mercury and the much larger Apollo capsules, were little two-seat sports cars and were the only operational US orbital spacecraft, outside the first few test flights of Columbia before it was given operational status, to have ejection seats.

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Jay C  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:41:54pm

re: #48 Dangerman

Result from Tuscarawas County, OH

Trump carried it 69-29% in 2020
Dem carried it 56-44 today.

+27 Democratic swing

Good news, of course, but what did the Dem carry? A county office? Statehouse seat?

I hate to be the downer here, but even huge R to D swings in pure votes are fairly meaningless unless they result - or at least have a credible chance of resulting- in the office at stake actually changing Party hands. Especially at the State/local level, where years of GOP gerrymandering (and its corollary, ideological purism purging) have served to tighten the grip of the Republicans on “red” areas probably beyond retrieval.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:42:29pm

Trad-Wife’ TikToker Axed From Job After Casually Saying N-Word

The baffling clip went viral Monday, with Lilly Gaddis dropping the slur as if she uses it regularly.

The woman at the center of the controversy, Lilly Gaddis, referred to her friends’ husbands as “broke ass n***s” in the clip—dropping the racial slur in a slight southern drawl so naturally, many speculated she must use it in casual conversation.

Gaddis, whose TikTok account was taken down by Tuesday evening, boasts 50,000 followers on X. On that platform, she showed no remorse for her comment and instead reshared posts from right-wing influencers who rushed to defend her hate speech.

“If my freedom of speech taken, they’ll be coming for yours next,” she posted Monday night, not long after posting a clip where she said she couldn’t “find a care” for the outrage she induced.

Gaddis did not strike a particularly conciliatory tone after Rophe of the Carolinas, a home health care company for the elderly and disabled, confirmed her departure in a fiery statement on Tuesday.

“Thanks black community for helping to launch my new career in conservative media!” she wrote on X. “You all played your role well like the puppets you are.”

In its statement, Rophe emphasized that Gaddis was a “newly hired” employee and that her statements “do not align” with the values and beliefs of the company, which is “operated by African American female and immigrant owned businesses.”

A since-deleted LinkedIn page listed Gaddis as a graphic designer who lives in the coastal city of Wilmington, North Carolina.

thedailybeast.com

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:44:01pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Beato has good points but it’s also what many of us have been saying.

AI generated sound will be the staple for advertisements, low cost TV and long-from videos (what used to be called “movies”), etc.

The problem for pop musicians is that pop music is usually rather simple music.

So computers make a good simulacrum.

Still, I can’t get Udio to make me a serious piano piece. All attempts at a non-pop piano creation fall apart. It is easy to tell.

And it’s even worse for symphonic pieces.

Try to get Udio to make a 7 minute long opera overature and it will just be a rambling mess.

That’s because serious music, by which I mean music composed by those trained in composition and intended for those musicians who are trained to play complex or difficult pieces, must express creative intent or it just sounds like a lot misc sounds.

Even atonal compositions are full of intent.

Art is communication. I keep repeating that.

Art is not sound, not color, not a texture.

Art is communication.

And so far what we call “AI” really does not have intent to communicate.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:48:21pm

This week Apple announced that the future of the Apple systems will be incorporating “AI”.

Today I was prompted to download the latest Apple office software (Pages, Keynote, Numbers).

Apparently Apple added to them some limited processing to make completion suggestions.

Start a sentence and the Mac will finish it.

We are heading in a direction that will be interesting, at least, to see.

It may be more than interesting.

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BeachDem  Jun 11, 2024 • 8:50:11pm

re: #67 Jay C

Good news, of course, but what did the Dem carry? A county office? Statehouse seat?

I hate to be the downer here, but even huge R to D swings in pure votes are fairly meaningless unless they result - or at least have a credible chance of resulting- in the office at stake actually changing Party hands. Especially at the State/local level, where years of GOP gerrymandering (and its corollary, ideological purism purging) have served to tighten the grip of the Republicans on “red” areas probably beyond retrieval.

Dem carried two counties/won nothing. Republicanvwon special election. only bright note, may bode well for Sherrod in statewide race this fall if Dems are increasing numbers

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:01:35pm

re: #67 Jay C

“I hate to be the downer here, but”

What do we say about anything before “but”?

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:03:26pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Sounds like the camera’s effect on art.

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piratedan  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:05:16pm

re: #71 BeachDem

granted, special elections are unique beasties, but these on the ground numbers have to raise some turnout concerns for the GOP. Abortion will also be on the ballot in Ohio and their fuckery at the State level may be pissing off indies as well (with the idiocy of threatening not to put Biden on the ballot) and the corruption at the state House.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:07:51pm

re: #74 piratedan

granted, special elections are unique beasties, but these on the ground numbers have to raise some turnout concerns for the GOP. Abortion will also be on the ballot in Ohio and their fuckery at the State level may be pissing off indies as well (with the idiocy of threatening not to put Biden on the ballot) and the corruption at the state House.

Remember when it was Republicans that turned out for special elections?

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gwangung  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:12:00pm

re: #74 piratedan

granted, special elections are unique beasties, but these on the ground numbers have to raise some turnout concerns for the GOP. Abortion will also be on the ballot in Ohio and their fuckery at the State level may be pissing off indies as well (with the idiocy of threatening not to put Biden on the ballot) and the corruption at the state House.

I mean, these aren’t outliers…they’re in line with past special elections and the 2022 midterms. It has to be concerning for Republicans and encouraging for Democrats.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:12:06pm

re: #73 Belafon

Sounds like the camera’s effect on art.

Nearly every photograph ever made is not art.

Early in the days of photography was the discussion about the “democratization” of art.

But it was mostly just fluff, a way for high-brow types to digest the impact of photography on society.

Most people do not use their cameras to make art. They use their cameras as a memory-assist. Which is fine, maybe even great. But it is not art.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:14:02pm

re: #68 Joe Bacon ✅

“If my freedom of speech taken, they’ll be coming for yours next,” she posted Monday night, not long after posting a clip where she said she couldn’t “find a care” for the outrage she induced.

Yeah, Lilly, I’m pretty sure that if I used the n-word in front of a couple of million people, there would be quite a few businesses and individuals who would want nothing more to do with me.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:22:48pm

re: #47 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(8:59)

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I watched that earlier this evening. I must admit that I’m confused when Rick talks about AI writing the songs he played. Did a computer compose the melody and the chords, arrange the various instrument heard, then synthesize both the instrumental tracks as well as the vocals? If so, he’s right about the fate of the music business. I’ve been a listener and a performer of music for over 55 years and, honestly, I could not detect any artifact that would tell me it was machine generated. I didn’t care for the songs he played but they sounded as if they’d come out of a recording studio. This may have a greater impact on the music business than Napster had.

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piratedan  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:23:21pm

re: #75 Belafon

I do and if we’re collecting anecdotal data, Dems have been outperforming norms since Dobbs and polling doesn’t reflect that (and I think it’s because of how the issue is being framed tbf). You take away the Nebraska polling that shows lackluster support for Fischer and these results in deeply gerrymandered Ohio. I think women are pissed off. When you examine the behavior of the GOP controlled State legislatures in how they’re addressing the issue and expansion to include birth control, travel to and from to receive healthcare, I can’t see the GOP making many inroads there.

I may be well off base here, but I think we’re going to see a blue wave of unexpected proportions. Yeah, MAGA is pissed off, guess what they’re ALWAYS fucking pissed off. What they’ve managed to do is piss off everybody else with their religious extremism, cruelty and complete abandonment of any and all Democratic principals. People look around, they have jobs, people taking vacations, buying cars and wonder wtf is the GOP talking about.

Is everything perfect, hardly, lots of items could be better, guns, shutting down the fascist bullshit, more affordable housing, taxing the fucking rich, fixing SCOTUS, helping Ukraine, really leaning in to confront climate change… plenty of issues to be addressed, but we need the political will to do so and I really feel that the GOP has finally done fucked up enough to make it happen.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:23:34pm

Fun trivia from my historical misconceptions file:

The first US liquid fuel rocket motor for aircraft, the Reaction Motors XLR-11, was designed and tested well before the German surrender and was not in any way connected with Operation Paperclip and the von Braun crew. It powered the Bell X-1 on its first supersonic flight and was still around 11 years later to power the hypersonic X-15 on its first 24 flights. It also powered the Dryden Lifting Bodies in the 1960s and 1970s.

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:29:06pm

re: #77 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Nearly every photograph ever made is not art.

Early in the days of photography was the discussion about the “democratization” of art.

But it was mostly just fluff, a way for high-brow types to digest the impact of photography on society.

Most people do not use their cameras to make art. They use their cameras as a memory-assist. Which is fine, maybe even great. But it is not art.

No, but the point is that art could no longer be just “still life with an aristocrat.” A camera could do that. It had to expand beyond that.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:33:19pm

re: #79 sizzzzlerz

I watched that earlier this evening. I must admit that I’m confused when Rick talks about AI writing the songs he played. Did a computer compose the melody and the chords, arrange the various instrument heard, then synthesize both the instrumental tracks as well as the vocals? If so, he’s right about the fate of the music business. I’ve been a listener and a performer of music for over 55 years and, honestly, I could not detect any artifact that would tell me it was machine generated. I didn’t care for the songs he played but they sounded as if they’d come out of a recording studio. This may have a greater impact on the music business than Napster had.

At the same time, he notes his children immediately were able to tell which songs were AI generated.

This might have something to do with the fact that as people age their hearing becomes less sharp, and teenagers in particular hear higher frequencies.

Some malls and department stores (convinced that teenagers are the problem with shoplifting) have installed high-frequency devices which pump sound adults generally can’t hear, to drive away teenagers.

NPR, July 10, 2019
Can You Hear It? Sonic Devices Play High-Pitched Noises To Repel Teens (with a clip of the sound the device plays)

In Philadelphia, 30 parks and recreation centers are outfitted with a small speaker called the Mosquito. It blares a constant, high-pitched ringing noise all night long — but one that only teenagers and young adults can hear.

Anyone over age 25 is supposed to be immune because, basically, their ear cells have started to die off.
National
Can you hear it? Listen here (30 seconds in)

Philadelphia parks officials have been installing the device since 2014, reported WHYY’s Billy Penn, intending to shoo rowdy youths from the premises.

And it’s not the only U.S. city to do so. Mosquito’s Vancouver-based manufacturer Moving Sound Technologies works with roughly 20 parks departments around the country to implement the youth-repellent devices, says president Michael Gibson.

It’s intended to prevent loitering and vandalism by teens and young adults at public facilities. But some say this age-based targeting is a form of prejudice.

Philadelphia City Council member Helen Gym refers to the devices as “sonic weapons” — and she’s working to get them removed.

(more)

Signia, test your hearing (you need headphones for this)

signia.net

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:33:30pm

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Yeah, Lilly, I’m pretty sure that if I used the n-word in front of a couple of million people, there would be quite a few businesses and individuals who would want nothing more to do with me.

What I’ve been having fun with is telling Libertarians that if they take Hunter Biden’s Gun Rights for drugs then they’ll take yours for your weed next 😈 They get all worked up over that shit.

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goddamnedfrank  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:37:49pm

Confirmed

If you want to know how it's going on the bird site, Musk has auto-blocked Apple for users and deleted all their tweets.

— Nash (@nash076.bsky.social) 2024-06-12T02:52:03.627Z

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:43:08pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Beato has good points but it’s also what many of us have been saying.

AI generated sound will be the staple for advertisements, low cost TV and long-from videos (what used to be called “movies”), etc.

The problem for pop musicians is that pop music is usually rather simple music.

So computers make a good simulacrum.

Still, I can’t get Udio to make me a serious piano piece. All attempts at a non-pop piano creation fall apart. It is easy to tell.

And it’s even worse for symphonic pieces.

Try to get Udio to make a 7 minute long opera overature and it will just be a rambling mess.

That’s because serious music, by which I mean music composed by those trained in composition and intended for those musicians who are trained to play complex or difficult pieces, must express creative intent or it just sounds like a lot misc sounds.

Even atonal compositions are full of intent.

Art is communication. I keep repeating that.

Art is not sound, not color, not a texture.

Art is communication.

And so far what we call “AI” really does not have intent to communicate.

Pop gets a bad rap (note the conversation a few days ago about odd time signatures in pop music here).

As far as AI goes, it cannot put on live concerts, whether giant stadium-like affairs or intimate little coffee shops.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:45:47pm

The three Republican women who filibustered a near-total abortion ban in the South Carolina Senate are all either losing their primaries or heading to a runoff: abcnews.go.com/538/live-upd...

— Nathaniel Rakich (@baseballot.bsky.social) 2024-06-12T02:41:22.987Z

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Belafon  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:48:18pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

You don’t watch a lot of anime do you? :)

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:51:02pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pop gets a bad rap (note the conversation a few days ago about odd time signatures in pop music here).

As far as AI goes, it cannot put on live concerts, whether giant stadium-like affairs or intimate little coffee shops.

Yet. Give AI controlled androids and/or holograms a decade or so… < whistles innocently >

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jun 11, 2024 • 9:51:58pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

Apple wasn’t blocked for me but all their posts are gone. What a childish dipshit. 😂😂😂

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:12:50pm

re: #88 Belafon

You don’t watch a lot of anime do you? :)

Gave up after Speed Racer. /s

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:16:36pm

re: #88 Belafon

You don’t watch a lot of anime do you? :)

I remember Astro Boy, Marine Boy, Prince Planet, 8th Man & Speed Racer in the 60s. Star Blazers in the 70s. And that’s it.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:23:30pm

re: #91 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Gave up after Speed Racer. /s

Ah, you really need to at least check out the classics…

Seriously look up Cowboy Bebop. 26 episodes, 1 movie. There was an attempt at a live action version but like all such things it is better ignored.

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:35:46pm

re: #86 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Pop gets a bad rap (note the conversation a few days ago about odd time signatures in pop music here).

As far as AI goes, it cannot put on live concerts, whether giant stadium-like affairs or intimate little coffee shops.

Kpop and Japanese vocaloids have been selling out live concerts for years…why not AI?

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:39:17pm

World is mine - live HD - Hatsune Miku

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piratedan  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:41:21pm

re: #93 William Lewis

BeBop still stands the test of time after all these years, the voice acting, the storylines, the music and the art.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:43:33pm

And it’s par for the course today.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 1,089 4/6

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:55:21pm

re: #93 William Lewis

Ah, you really need to at least check out the classics…

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Seriously look up Cowboy Bebop. 26 episodes, 1 movie. There was an attempt at a live action version but like all such things it is better ignored.

I wouldn’t say all such things. The One Piece live action was damn good.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 10:56:09pm

re: #97 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And it’s par for the course today.

Like yesterday, it won’t let me display the tiles unless I sign up.

I played in hard mode. I only guessed letters in the correct positions. 4/6

This was a tough one.

X——
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JC1  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:03:26pm

re: #69 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Beato has good points but it’s also what many of us have been saying.

AI generated sound will be the staple for advertisements, low cost TV and long-from videos (what used to be called “movies”), etc.

The problem for pop musicians is that pop music is usually rather simple music.

So computers make a good simulacrum.

Still, I can’t get Udio to make me a serious piano piece. All attempts at a non-pop piano creation fall apart. It is easy to tell.

And it’s even worse for symphonic pieces.

Try to get Udio to make a 7 minute long opera overature and it will just be a rambling mess.

That’s because serious music, by which I mean music composed by those trained in composition and intended for those musicians who are trained to play complex or difficult pieces, must express creative intent or it just sounds like a lot misc sounds.

Even atonal compositions are full of intent.

Art is communication. I keep repeating that.

Art is not sound, not color, not a texture.

Art is communication.

And so far what we call “AI” really does not have intent to communicate.

You might like this performer.
She uses AI to compose pieces in the style of classical composers, but actually plays them herself.

adpianist.com

instagram.com

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danarchy  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:05:16pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Like yesterday, it won’t let me display the tiles unless I sign up.

I played in hard mode. I only guessed letters in the correct positions. 4/6

This was a tough one.

X——
XX—-
XX-X-
XXXXX

Wordle 1,089 3/6

I’ve never signed up and it lets me copy it. Just hit the share button at the bottom of the screen and it copies it to your clipboard.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 1,089 3/6

⬜🟩⬜🟨🟨
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JC1  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:06:36pm

re: #93 William Lewis

Ah, you really need to at least check out the classics…

[Embedded content]

Seriously look up Cowboy Bebop. 26 episodes, 1 movie. There was an attempt at a live action version but like all such things it is better ignored.

I liked the live adaptation. Also liked the live adaptation of The One Piece.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:08:30pm

re: #101 danarchy

Wordle 1,089 3/6

I’ve never signed up and it lets me copy it. Just hit the share button at the bottom of the screen and it copies it to your clipboard.

[Embedded content]

We troubleshot this yesterday here. There is no share button at the bottom of my screen.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:19:27pm

re: #96piratedan

BeBop still stands the test of time after all these years, the voice acting, the storylines, the music and the art.

Started a rewatch just the other day. Still simply amazing.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:34:59pm

It’s not child labour if you pay them to work your kid for no pay.

Bigot Chicken is charging $35 for parents to send their child to learn how to work in their fast-food restaurants for one day. (Delish, two days ago)

Nothing at all could go wrong with children around deep fryers or other dangerous equipment insufficiently supervised.

Controversial Chick-fil-A Summer Camp Charges Kids $35 To Work At The Restaurant

They call it “camping.”

Capitalists miss their slaves.

A Louisiana Chick-fil-A is stirring up some major controversy after the restaurant announced its summer camp for children. Taking place July 22-24, the camp is targeted to kids between five and 12 years old and gives them a chance to learn various tasks that Chick-fil-A workers do. It will take place at a Chick-fil-A location in Hammond, Louisiana, and campers will choose one of three days to attend.

According to a Facebook post about the camp, the activities that campers will do include: learning dining room hosting and customer service skills, learning how to take an order, learn how to bag an order, and making your own Ice Dream cone or cup.

Since being published on June 6, the Facebook post has been met with well over 1,000 comments, mostly from people claiming the restaurant is taking advantage of campers by putting them to work and charging them for it. The summer camp is one day long, and costs $35 per child. One user even tagged the U.S. Department of Labor.

(more)

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IngisKahn  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:37:46pm

re: #98 danarchy

I wouldn’t say all such things. The One Piece live action was damn good.

Just rewatched One Piece live action. It’s so good. Currently on episode 656 of the anime :)

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No Malarkey!  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:44:07pm

Live Xitter thread in box. It spells out the grim future planned for the majority of Americans if Project2025 goes into effect, one in which corporate power goes unchecked by an emasculated federal government, leaving an ever growing segment of Americans to struggle in poverty.

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William Lewis  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:46:05pm

re: #98 danarchy

I wouldn’t say all such things. The One Piece live action was damn good.

Not familiar with it I guess. The only live action one I’ve ever liked was the Speed Racer movie and I loved it.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:50:57pm

re: #107 No Malarkey!

Live Xitter thread in box. It spells out the grim future planned for the majority of Americans if Project2025 goes into effect, one in which corporate power goes unchecked by an emasculated federal government, leaving an ever growing segment of Americans to struggle in poverty.

Same thread at Nitter, where you can see the whole thread without a Twitter account and not provide traffic to Elno (currently up to twenty-six posts)

nitter.poast.org

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:56:20pm

re: #107 No Malarkey!

Live Xitter thread in box. It spells out the grim future planned for the majority of Americans if Project2025 goes into effect, one in which corporate power goes unchecked by an emasculated federal government, leaving an ever growing segment of Americans to struggle in poverty.

It’s like they took the plot of the libertarian dystopia novel Jennifer Government and wrote it up as a plan of action. (Goes to Wikipedia)

Folks have been comparing it to The Handmaid’s Tale but the Calvinist control and Protestant work ethic is only part, since the theocracy in that book doesn’t have anything like libertarian fascism in it with corporations in control of everything. In The Handmaid’s Tale the government is all-powerful.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 11, 2024 • 11:58:44pm

re: #87 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Republicans who thought they could remain in the GOP and try some “moderate” positions are finding out that if they don’t play the right-wing orthodoxy they will be excommunicated.

We all knew it was going to happen.

I just wonder about those old Republicans who thought they could play footsie with the religious right and not get taken over, if they were really dull or just didn’t care.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:06:26am

Pop music:

Elvis Presley - If I Were You (Official Audio)


…

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No Malarkey!  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:16:39am

re: #110 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s like they took the plot of the libertarian dystopia novel Jennifer Government and wrote it up as a plan of action. (Goes to Wikipedia)

Folks have been comparing it to The Handmaid’s Tale but the Calvinist control and Protestant work ethic is only part, since the theocracy in that book doesn’t have anything like libertarian fascism in it with corporations in control of everything. In The Handmaid’s Tale the government is all-powerful.

Interesting. There is a browser game based on the novel in which you can create your own nation. nationstates.net

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:20:49am

re: #113 No Malarkey!

Interesting. There is a browser game based on the novel in which you can create your own nation. nationstates.net

My wife and I used to each run a country in the game.

For her monetary unit she invented the “plutonium pound.” The idea was you couldn’t collect too much money in your treasury.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:37:04am

BBC, yesterday

US civil rights hero James Lawson dies at 95

James Lawson, the black civil rights activist who travelled to India to study non-violent protest and served as chief strategist to Dr Martin Luther King Jr, has died at the age of 95.

Lawson, a Methodist minister, learned Mahatma Gandhi’s principles of civil disobedience and taught them to protesters opposing racial segregation in the US.

Through his workshops, he instructed countless activists on how to passively resist horrific violence and threats from the police and angry white mobs in order to expose the immorality of racism.

King repeatedly praised his methods, calling him in a speech the day before his assassination one of the great “noble men” of the black struggle in America.

King, who met Lawson when they were both 28-year-olds, also called his ally “the leading theorist and strategist of nonviolence in the world”.

Lawson died in Los Angeles, where he lived, his family said on Monday.

(more at the link)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:42:34am

American capitalist medical care meets American racist medical care in Detroit (BBC, yesterday)

A member of US soul group the Four Tops is suing a hospital, claiming doctors halted emergency treatment and ordered a psychological evaluation because they did not believe him when he told them he was famous.

Alexander Morris, who joined the long-running group in 2019, says he went to Ascension Macomb Oakland Hospital, in Detroit, with difficulty breathing and chest pain, in April 2023.

Mr Morris’s legal action claims he was racially profiled and doctors assumed he was mentally ill when he told them he was in the Four Tops, instead of treating “his clear symptoms of cardiac distress”.

He was eventually diagnosed with a serious heart condition and pneumonia and suffered three seizures in hospital.

The hospital has previously said its “top priority” is the health and safety of patients but it is “unable to provide details on cases under investigation”.

The Four Tops are known for classic hits such as 1966’s Reach Out I’ll Be There and have had a number of line-up changes in recent years.

In his legal papers, Mr Morris, 53, claims he had security concerns due to stalkers and fans, so informed a nurse and a hospital guard he was in the pop group.

He also told a doctor he had difficulty breathing and chest pain, as well as a history of heart disease - but staff “wrongfully assumed he was mentally ill, when he revealed his identity as a celebrity figure”.

They took him off oxygen, put him in a straitjacket and a guard subjected him to racial discrimination.

He continued to struggle to breathe but was denied more oxygen.

And when his his wife tried to persuade a guard he was not delusional, she was ignored.

(more)

Singer sues hospital, claiming fame-delusion mix-up

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:45:16am

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Let’s buy you off with practically nothing:

Staff realised their mistake only when he played them footage of him performing with the group at the Grammy Awards.

And they offered him a $25 (£20) gift card as an apology, which he refused.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:49:33am

re: #114 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

My wife and I used to each run a country in the game.

For her monetary unit she invented the “plutonium pound.” The idea was you couldn’t collect too much money in your treasury.

I can see that this could become a very addictive game!

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 12:56:15am

GameStop has completed an at-par share sale, netting over $2.13 billion.

GameStop Completes At-The-Market Equity Offering Program (Official Website, June 11, 2024)

GRAPEVINE, Texas, June 11, 2024 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) — GameStop Corp. (NYSE: GME) (“GameStop” or the “Company”) today announced that it has completed its previously disclosed “at-the-market” equity offering program (the “ATM Program”).

GameStop disclosed on June 7, 2024 that it filed a prospectus supplement with the U.S Securities and Exchange Commission to offer and sell up to a maximum amount of 75,000,000 shares of its common stock from time to time through the ATM Program. The Company sold the maximum number of shares registered under the ATM Program for aggregate gross proceeds (before commissions and offering expenses) of approximately $2.137 billion.

GameStop intends to use the net proceeds from the ATM Program for general corporate purposes, which may include acquisitions and investments.

(more)

From Reddit’s r/WallStreetBets, GameStop was the stock that brought “stonk” into regular usage, even appearing now in the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2024 • 1:10:27am

re: #111 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I’m reminded that even Goldwater warned them about the religious right but they thought they could ride the tiger but the tiger ate them instead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 1:18:38am

New York Times, June 11, 2024

North Dakota voters adopt a state constitutional amendment which will immediately be challenged and struck down by the federal courts.

Voters in North Dakota approved a ballot measure that sets a maximum age for representing the state in Congress, The Associated Press said on Tuesday. Experts said they believed North Dakota was the first state to impose such a requirement on members of Congress, though they said the measure is likely to be challenged in court.

The ballot measure, to amend the North Dakota Constitution, bars congressional candidates who would turn 81 or older by the end of the year before their term ends from being eligible for office.

The measure provided a rare glimpse into how one state’s voters think about age at a time when questions over the effectiveness of older political leaders have been part of the national conversation.

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The Supreme Court has already addressed this in a Missouri law seeking to impose age limits on state legislators and an Arkansas law imposing term limits on representatives and senators to the federal government.

Good luck spending all that money to lose, North Dakota. Conservatism is expensive.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 12, 2024 • 1:37:08am

Finding Blue Sky boring (there just isn’t enough traffic) I decided to ask chatGPT to create three science abstracts that could make headlines:

Title: Discovery of Superluminal Particles in Cosmic Rays: Implications for Special Relativity

Abstract:
In this groundbreaking study, we report the detection of particles traveling faster than the speed of light in cosmic rays. Using data collected from the Advanced Particle Detection Array (APDA), we observed anomalous events where particles exceeded the speed of light in a vacuum, challenging the cornerstone of Einstein’s theory of Special Relativity. We present the methodologies employed in detecting and verifying these superluminal particles, along with a thorough analysis of their properties and potential origins. Our findings suggest the existence of new physics beyond the Standard Model, potentially involving higher-dimensional frameworks or modifications to the spacetime fabric. These results necessitate a re-evaluation of fundamental physical laws and open avenues for novel theoretical developments in high-energy astrophysics and cosmology.

Title: Direct Evidence of Dark Matter Interactions with Electromagnetic Fields: A New Paradigm

Abstract:
This paper presents the first direct evidence of dark matter interacting with electromagnetic fields, a phenomenon previously thought impossible under the prevailing Lambda Cold Dark Matter (ΛCDM) model. Utilizing the enhanced sensitivity of the Dark Matter-Electromagnetic Interaction Detector (DMEID), we observed measurable deflections and energy shifts in electromagnetic waves passing through regions of high dark matter concentration. Our results indicate that dark matter particles possess a non-negligible electric dipole moment, which could explain these interactions. This discovery mandates a revision of existing dark matter theories and has profound implications for our understanding of galaxy formation, cosmic microwave background anomalies, and the unification of fundamental forces. We discuss the theoretical implications and potential mechanisms behind this interaction, suggesting new directions for both experimental and theoretical astrophysics.

Title: Unveiling the Fifth Force: Anomalies in Galactic Rotation Curves and the Breakdown of Newtonian Dynamics

Abstract:
Recent observations of galactic rotation curves have revealed persistent anomalies that cannot be accounted for by conventional Newtonian dynamics or dark matter models. In this paper, we propose the existence of a previously unknown “fifth force” that acts at galactic scales. By analyzing data from the Extended Galactic Rotation Survey (EGRS), we demonstrate that this force provides a better fit for the rotation curves of over 100 spiral galaxies. Our findings challenge the universality of Newton’s law of gravitation and suggest that this fifth force could be a manifestation of a deeper underlying theory, possibly linked to modifications of general relativity or quantum gravity effects. We explore the theoretical framework for this force, its potential particle mediators, and implications for our understanding of gravity and cosmology. This discovery has the potential to revolutionize astrophysics, offering new insights into the structure and evolution of the universe.

Maybe I should submit one of them to Bsky’s Science Feed and see if I get any nibbles?

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:02:05am

Noticed an ever increasing number of YouTube channels that are clearly just AI dumping grounds, for videos on just about any topic.

I figure hundreds of thousands of channels now exist to just post AI generated videos.

There are several for religions too.

I figure someone has to be making the $$$, so why not me?

So I asked chatGPT to make a short video to push creationism, and used the Veed GPT.

Here’s what the AI gave me:

Challenging Evolution_ Earth’s True Age Revealed

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:03:52am

re: #122 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

LOL

Make sure you put the tags #SciSky and 🧪on them to get scientists’ attention.

(You might get blocked by a bunch when they figure it out though.)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:05:17am

re: #123 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

How does one tell the difference between AI generated religion talking points and real ones already debunked a thousand times?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:10:49am

Washington Post, June 10, 2024

Opinion
Is Donald Trump okay? (Eugene Robinson)

Welcome to the party, Mr. Robinson.

“His story about hypothetically being electrocuted is another glimpse into a mind that is unwell. “

It is irresponsible to obsess over President Biden’s tendency to mangle a couple of words in a speech while Donald Trump is out there sounding detached from reality. Biden, who is old, at least makes sense. Trump, who also is old, rants like someone you’d cross the street to avoid.

We in the media have failed by becoming inured to Trump’s verbal incontinence — not just the rapid-fire lies and revenge-seeking threats, but also the frightening glimpses into a mind that is, evidently, unwell. In 2016, Trump said outrageous things at his campaign rallies to be entertaining. In 2024, his tangents raise serious questions about his mental fitness.

His rally on Sunday in Las Vegas offered a grim smorgasbord of examples, but the obvious standout (and not in a good way) is the story he told about being aboard a hypothetical electric-powered boat. He posits that the battery would be so heavy that it would cause the craft to sink, and he relates his purported conversation with a knowledgeable mariner about this scenario. Bear with me, but it’s worth reading the passage in full:

“I say, ‘What would happen if the boat sank from its weight, and you’re in the boat, and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery’s now underwater, and there’s a shark that’s approximately 10 yards over there?’
“By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately, do you notice that? Lot of sharks. I watched some guys justifying it today: ‘Well they weren’t really that angry, they bit off the young lady’s leg because of the fact that they were not hungry but they misunderstood who she was.’ These people are crazy. He said, ‘There’s no problem with sharks, they just didn’t really understand a young woman swimming.’ No, really got decimated, and other people, too, a lot of shark attacks.
“So I said, ‘There’s a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards, or here. Do I get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking? Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted, or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?’ Because I will tell you, he didn’t know the answer.
“He said, ‘You know, nobody’s ever asked me that question.’ I said, ‘I think it’s a good question. I think there’s a lot of electric current coming through that water.’ But you know what I’d do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted? I’ll take electrocution every single time. I’m not getting near the shark. So we’re going to end that, we’re going to end it for boats, we’re going to end it for trucks.”

Trucks? He’s actually talking about the transition to electric vehicles, which he has vowed to halt. That entire hallucination is part of Trump’s rationale for one of his major policy positions.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:15:39am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:16:18am

In extremely local news, I just got a weather radio alert I’ve never gotten before (equipment change-of-status).

The Sidney, Nebr. weather observation site, which was destroyed in the April blizzard here, has returned to service.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:20:19am

WFLA-TV (Sarasota, Fla.)

Sarasota sets record for most rainfall in 1 hour

(This is being caused by the tropical wave 90L coming ashore from the Gulf of Mexico.)

It’s not very often that 8″+ of rain falls in 3 hours in the Tampa Bay area, but that happened early Tuesday evening just south of Sarasota. That is considered the type of event which should only occur statistically once every 500 to 1,000 years.

As seen from the NOAA graphic below, the purple bullseye shows the area where the 3-hour rain totals that fell from roughly 5 p.m. - 8 p.m. reached a recurrence interval, or return period, that peaks at the top of the scale: 1-in-200 years.

(more, with charts)

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:31:01am

Mastodon

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steve_davis  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:37:53am

My first “live” review task for the AI gig and the human thinks Dostoevsky was writing in 1960. Then proceeded to plagiarize two paragraphs from Wikipedia. AI definitely won that matchup. I don’t know how many fails humans get at these tasks before they’re shitcanned, but for this money, I’m guessing not a lot.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:38:45am

I’m off to bed. Going into town later to pick up our hose reel from Target.

My computer also wants to talk to the mothership about an update.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:38:53am

re: #8 ericblair

The Ohio 6th CD special election results should be a major alarm bell for the entire GOP.

Bill Johnson won this seat by 35 points in 2022. It’s a Trump +30 district.

The Republican will win, but it is a 4.4 point race with 65% of the vote in.

It is an alarm bell: proof that the Democrats are already stealing elections.

/

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:39:48am

re: #19 Joe Bacon ✅

When Ohio 6 swings 31 points to the Democrats what will Republicans do?

Criswell Bacon predicts they will double down on their adherence to Radical Right Xtianity.

And gerrymander even more extremely

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:41:27am

re: #21 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In ruling that bong water is a drug mixture, the Minnesota Supreme Court justices relied, in part, on the testimony of a state patrol officer who claimed that drug users keep bong water “for future use… either drinking it or shooting it in the veins.”

What nonsense. Everybody knows we inject it into our eyeballs to induce hallucinations.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:47:28am

re: #38 The Ghost of a Flea

What could the parties of Le Pen and DeGaulle have in common, except for the obvious stuff like “putting Mediterranean and Sahel Africans in their place”?/

That’s enough. The large turnout for the German populist AfD party had a lot to do with an incident just the other week of a rejected asylum-seeker knifing a policeman to death in Mannheim.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:48:38am

re: #40 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Don’t call Republicans racists. That’s not “civil.” This would be the state where more than 40% of all enslaved people were forced into the country.

Ahem. They’re not “Civil”, they’re “Between the States”

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:52:58am

re: #78 Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines

Yeah, Lilly, I’m pretty sure that if I used the n-word in front of a couple of million people, there would be quite a few businesses and individuals who would want nothing more to do with me.

Your Freedom of Speech remains unaffected. Your access to certain broadcast platforms, however, are not covered by the First Amendment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:57:04am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How does one tell the difference between AI generated religion talking points and real ones already debunked a thousand times?

The AI version is more convincing?

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 12, 2024 • 2:58:07am

Wndell hath spoken. We now return you to our normal posting.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 3:10:11am

Idaho District 8 state senator ousted in the Republican Primary.

Of note, he is the Republican who held the highest office as an atheist.

He served one term. His term ends at the end of the year. He was a long-time Republican official in the Idaho GOP, serving in party work and local offices before running for office in an open seat after derestricting.

No Democrat ran against him in the last election, so winning that primary was the whole election. In that election, his priorities were giving local leaders more control, protect education, and making sure the district had clean water.

Senate District 8 covers a large area to the east of Boise.

Hemant Mehta interviewed at the time, and updates on his primary loss. (22:28)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 3:11:02am

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Oops, let’s add the video. He is not a 2020 election denier.

Parting words from Geoff Schroeder, the only openly atheist GOP lawmaker in the country (Livestream)

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 3:56:44am

Let’s get under the covers for Humpday’s drive time music!

The times they are a-changin’ by Keb’ Mo’

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 4:10:09am

Yikes
Wordle 1,089 6/6

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 4:14:09am

I stared way too long at this.

Click to Reveal

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 4:18:00am

A bit of local news. That section of Lake Champlain is crystal clear, due to the invasive zebra mussels.

A private jet that vanished in 1971 with five passengers onboard was miraculously found by an expert during a recent recovery mission.

On January 27, 1971, a jet took off on a snowy and cold night from the Burlington International Airport to Providence, Rhode Island. The plane was carrying two crew members and three employees from Cousin’s Properties, an Atlanta-based development company.

The flight vanished and George Nikita, Donald Myers, Frank Wilder, Richard Kirby Windsor, and Robert Ransom Williams III were never found, despite multiple searches conducted over the last five decades.

Garry Kozak of Goffstown, New Hampshire, has found what he believes is the 10-seat Jet Commander aircraft, at the bottom of Lake Champlain, off Juniper Island.

‘You can’t find peace until you find all the pieces, and today’s the day. Today’s the day. And it’s done,’ Kristina Coffey, the daughter of George, the pilot of plane, told NBC5 News.

dailymail.co.uk

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 4:43:43am

re: #145 Nerdy Fish

You didn’t go down the rabbit hole I went down. Good.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 12, 2024 • 5:19:00am

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No Malarkey!  Jun 12, 2024 • 5:39:18am

CPI 0% for May, Core CPI 0.2%, beating expectations. This may allow the Fed to cut rates a quarter point.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2024 • 5:42:32am

Soft landing.

Joe Weisenthal
@TheStalwart

10m
BREAKING:

CPI COMES IN COOL

HEADLINE CPI 0%

CORE JUST 0.2%

Economists had expected 0.1% on headline and 0.3% on core.

bloomberg.com

The dollar sank and yields tumbled as CPI came in below expectations, on both the month-on-month headline and core figures. The two-year Treasury yield fell a whopping 12 bps to 4.7%. SOFR futures yields are down more than 14 bps on the day (having been less than 2 bps lower before the print.)

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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 5:42:56am

“CNN aired a montage on Tuesday evening comparing and contrasting the very different reaction of Fox News hosts to the criminal convictions of Donald Trump and Hunter Biden at their respective trials, a surprisingly direct attack on a media rival,” The Independent reports.

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2024 • 5:46:11am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 12, 2024 • 5:46:30am

re: #97 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And it’s par for the course today.

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Another slog.
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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2024 • 5:55:44am
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darthstar  Jun 12, 2024 • 6:02:07am

re: #152 gocart mozart

It’s good to see little has changed on X.

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2024 • 6:06:03am

Mastodon

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jun 12, 2024 • 6:13:39am

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gocart mozart  Jun 12, 2024 • 6:16:15am

Is this a punk song?

Baby Don’t You Do It - Small Faces

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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 6:33:54am
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dat_said  Jun 12, 2024 • 6:47:22am

ND Primary Results

US House - Trygve Hammer handily won the Democratic primary but, just looking at the total votes of about 19000 in the Democratic primary and 94000 in the Republican primary, you can see that he has quite the uphill battle.

The more interesting result is in the Republican primary. Julie Fedorchak nearly received 50% of the vote over the ND Republican-endorsed Candidate Rick Becker (who had about 30% of the vote). Fedorchak would have likely won with more than 30% of the vote over Becker if Cara Mund hadn’t also been in the race. Fedorchak is probably best described as business-oriented center right. Becker is full-on MAGA, maybe even more right than full-on MAGA and part of the reactionary wing of the ND Republican party that runs the Republican party - that’s why Fedorchak winning is somewhat of a repudiation of the MAGA folks in ND. Mund would better fit in the ND Dem-NPL party but probably thought she had a better chance to influence things being in the ND Republican party.

Also, Nikki Haley received 14% of the ND Republican primary voters, again showing some weakness for Mr Trump.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:05:01am

Flori-duh Man had a rough night:

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:08:02am

House GOP is intent on trying to hold Garland in contempt of congress for not turning over the audio of the Joe Biden interview with Robert Hur.

They got a written transcript, but insist on the audio, so as to recut the audio into attack ads. They want to fixate on Biden’s stutter, which is included in the transcript. It adds nothing to the discourse, but anything to attack Biden is fair game.

These fuckers have no problem covering up felonies for Trump, but insist on this course of action.

Meanwhile, where are the hearings by the Senate into Alito, Thomas, and Roberts and their conflicts of interest? Where are the contempt charges for refusing to attend? There’s a lot more criminality and misconduct involved there, but we’ll get this GOP dog and pony show instead.

Oh, and the House judiciary will be getting Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and his top prosecutor attending session on July 12 to discuss the Trump prosecution, a day after Trump is sentenced.

You an bet that this too will be a dog and pony show where GOPers will spew lies and nonsense, while Bragg and Colangelo hold to the facts and law.

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nines09  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:08:21am

Doing a John Prine gem.

Clay Pigeons

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Targetpractice  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:09:31am

re: #161 Dr. Matt

Flori-duh Man had a rough night:

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Is it just me or does every campaign email from these asshats look like an advertisement from shady 90’s third-party retailer?

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:16:42am

re: #164 Targetpractice

Is it just me or does every campaign email from these asshats look like an advertisement from shady 90’s third-party retailer?

By design.

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JC1  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:29:18am

re: #119 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

GameStop has completed an at-par share sale, netting over $2.13 billion.

GameStop Completes At-The-Market Equity Offering Program (Official Website, June 11, 2024)

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From Reddit’s r/WallStreetBets, GameStop was the stock that brought “stonk” into regular usage, even appearing now in the Merriam-Webster dictionary.

So the company is now sitting on over 4 billion of cash. That’s a lot of runway.

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JC1  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:31:38am

re: #125 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

How does one tell the difference between AI generated religion talking points and real ones already debunked a thousand times?

The AI generated one is likely to be more internally consistent.

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JC1  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:34:55am

re: #131 steve_davis

My first “live” review task for the AI gig and the human thinks Dostoevsky was writing in 1960. Then proceeded to plagiarize two paragraphs from Wikipedia. AI definitely won that matchup. I don’t know how many fails humans get at these tasks before they’re shitcanned, but for this money, I’m guessing not a lot.

Did he confuse Dostoyevsky with Nabokov?

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JC1  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:36:28am

re: #134 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

And gerrymander even more extremely

Extreme gerrymandering in somewhat competitive states backfires if there’s a big election swing against.

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Unabogie  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:39:07am

re: #166 Shropshire Slasher

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Your media diet is pretty disturbing. Why post something like this? What is wrong with you?

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JC1  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:39:11am

re: #149 No Malarkey!

CPI 0% for May, Core CPI 0.2%, beating expectations. This may allow the Fed to cut rates a quarter point.

Doubt that the FED will cut unless they see a few months of this in a row. Last month inflation was running hotter than expected.

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:41:12am

The European Commission, after investigation, has proposed imposing tariffs on Chinese-made EVs. You can read about it here - the second paragraph is in English:

ec.europa.eu

Also, today is the anniversary of the escape from Alcatraz by the Anglin brothers and Frank Morris, which happened on 12 June 1962.

en.wikipedia.org

I think they might have successfully pulled it off - if you read the “Claims and Developments” section of that Wiki article, there’s some pretty interesting information, especially regarding a 1955 Chevy that was stolen in Marin County in the early morning hours of the same day as their escape attempt.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:41:30am

re: #171 Unabogie

Your media diet is pretty disturbing. Why post something like this? What is wrong with you?

Don’t bully me.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:42:13am

He sounds just like Krylenko prosecuting victims of Stalin’s purges.

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jeffreyw  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:43:23am

Good morning!

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:46:13am

This could just as easily be the Trump inner circle meeting, where they’re all such sycophantic suckups desperate to stay in good graces that they’ll say and do anything Trump thinks he wants at any given moment (and can turn on a dime based on whims).

Youtube Video

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Unabogie  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:46:32am

re: #174 Shropshire Slasher

Don’t bully me.

You apparently don’t know what bullying is. But I’ll be clear with you. Posting videos of people involved in violence, because it gives you a boner, is sick.

Stop it.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:47:33am

Far-right election conspiracy theorists failed to gain control of Nevada’s second-biggest county after GOP incumbent Clara Andriola beat an extremist primary challenger 44-25 yesterday rgj.com

Washoe County is swingy & has 1/6 of Nevada’s population

Via Stephen Wolf - xT -

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darthstar  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:51:10am

Mastodon

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:51:56am

re: #178 Unabogie

You apparently don’t know what bullying is. But I’ll be clear with you. Posting videos of people involved in violence, because it gives you a boner, is sick.

Stop it.

That and cops in general are Heerooos to counter those of us saying ACAB. (though that video shows an utterly incompetent officer who almost killed himself among other issues but I digress.)

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:53:01am

re: #178 Unabogie

Police interactions are inherently interesting, particularly when they go bad. There is a lot to learn from this one.

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mmmirele  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:56:56am

re: #93 William Lewis

Ah, you really need to at least check out the classics…

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Seriously look up Cowboy Bebop. 26 episodes, 1 movie. There was an attempt at a live action version but like all such things it is better ignored.

You could also watch Neon Genesis Evangelion, which in its original iteration (1995) is a cluster, in its second iteration (End of Evangelion 1996) is a mindfuck and in its third iteration (Rebuild 2007-2022) is crazy. I would note that the Evangelion franchise has been licensed for just about everything in Japan, including Schick razors, pachinko machines and coffee. Oh, and there’s a lot of “fan service,” if you get my meaning. But it’s still a mindfuck beloved by two generations of Japanese.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 7:58:41am

re: #182 Decatur Deb

Police interactions are inherently interesting, particularly when they go bad. There is a lot to learn from this one.

I think there’s an argument for “both” here. Shropshire is well known for regularly posting (deliberately, I suspect) from shady sources such as the NY Post and the Daily Fail. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t some chestnuts in there; stopped clock, twice a day, etc. I wasn’t particularly listening to the audio, but watching the segment where the dumbass cop set the thing off was entertaining and a bit educational.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:00:20am

re: #184 Nerdy Fish

I think there’s an argument for “both” here. Shropshire is well known for regularly posting (deliberately, I suspect) from shady sources such as the NY Post and the Daily Fail. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t some chestnuts in there; stopped clock, twice a day, etc. I wasn’t particularly listening to the audio, but watching the segment where the dumbass cop set the thing off was entertaining and a bit educational.

Most interesting is that Bubba never went face-down. Something to do with ink appreciation.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:00:42am

re: #178 Unabogie

You apparently don’t know what bullying is. But I’ll be clear with you. Posting videos of people involved in violence, because it gives you a boner, is sick.

Stop it.

Pro-tip for you bully, don’t click on the link.

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Unabogie  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:02:47am

re: #182 Decatur Deb

Police interactions are inherently interesting, particularly when they go bad. There is a lot to learn from this one.

Honestly, I’m not going to click on any video with “blows himself up” in the title, so I didn’t watch it. If people want that stuff, put it behind a spoiler tag. It’s just common decency.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:04:56am

re: #181 William Lewis

That and cops in general are Heerooos to counter those of us saying ACAB. (though that video shows an utterly incompetent officer who almost killed himself among other issues but I digress.)

From the link (if you didn’t want to make this choice) is some background.

LOTS of comments about what this device was, some say it was a shake and bake meth making device. I pulled the police report again, here is what they say:

To wit: (1) Chemical release device resulting in being a poisonous gas bomb which was created by multiple pieces of PVC pipe purposely joined together with a valve in the middle of used to open or close the middle of the device off from the (2) ends. Defendant admitted to storing powdered chlorine within one of the sides of the device while claiming he did not know what the content was inside of the other side of the device. The device’s valve is marked with the words “SAFE” and “DISARMED” when the valve is closed and marked “ARMED” when the valve is open. Preliminary analysis by law enforcement bomb technicians on scene is the other chemical in the device is likely brake fluid. A combination of the 2 chemicals results in what the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms personnel referred to as a “Chemical release device” suspected to be used as a “poisonous gas bomb”. The device did explode or detonate while in the constructive possession of a law enforcement officer, Sergeant Owens, which resulted in Sgt Owens inhaling and/or ingesting the chemicals released by the bomb while also having his eyes immediately impacted by the chemicals. Sergeant Owens’ was immediately forced to seek medical attention due to the exposure of gases and powdered particles from the explosion.

and the best comment was, this is the guy who would steal your wallet and then help you look for it.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:06:19am

re: #187 Unabogie

Honestly, I’m not going to click on any video with “blows himself up” in the title, so I didn’t watch it. If people want that stuff, put it behind a spoiler tag. It’s just common decency.

So you are a bully and a clown.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:08:28am

re: #188 Shropshire Slasher

It’s good to know they’re out there, and they’re sharing more creative tech.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:16:39am

re: #97 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

And it’s par for the course today.

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But solved only after a friend did it and made a comment that led me in the right direction

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Unabogie  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:17:50am

re: #189 Shropshire Slasher

So you are a bully and a clown.

Listen fuckface, you’re an asshole and a troll. I’m really sorry you don’t have someone to love you and you’re reduced to being a pissant annoyance, but just fuck off. Seriously, just go fuck yourself.

But you got me to pay attention to you, you pathetic leaking pustule. That’s my bad.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:18:26am

When it comes to blowing up real good I’ll just stick with those old SCTV Farm Fresh Blow Up clips.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:22:53am

re: #174 Shropshire Slasher

Don’t bully me.

Don’t bully me? WTF is that as a response?

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:24:16am

re: #184 Nerdy Fish

…, but watching the segment where the dumbass cop set the thing off was entertaining and a bit educational.

Morons in LE do stupid shit.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:26:31am

re: #171 Unabogie

Your media diet is pretty disturbing. Why post something like this? What is wrong with you?

It didn’t disturb me.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:29:21am

re: #194 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Don’t bully me? WTF is that as a response?

Why do you feel the need to bully me?

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:29:56am

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:30:33am

Coming out and admitting they will do anything for Fartman

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:34:49am

re: #197 Shropshire Slasher

Step out and touch some grass. Your responses are nonsensical.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:39:48am

re: #199 Joe Bacon ✅

“Weaponized Justice System” = holding rich white men accountable.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:40:12am

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JC1  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:43:01am

re: #184 Nerdy Fish

I think there’s an argument for “both” here. Shropshire is well known for regularly posting (deliberately, I suspect) from shady sources such as the NY Post and the Daily Fail. But that doesn’t mean there aren’t some chestnuts in there; stopped clock, twice a day, etc. I wasn’t particularly listening to the audio, but watching the segment where the dumbass cop set the thing off was entertaining and a bit educational.

Listening to the audio, the cop seemed very reasonable.

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JC1  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:45:01am

re: #187 Unabogie

Honestly, I’m not going to click on any video with “blows himself up” in the title, so I didn’t watch it. If people want that stuff, put it behind a spoiler tag. It’s just common decency.

He didn’t blow himself up. Wasn’t even injured, just surprised. Do you post movie reviews just based on the promo poster?

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Orange Impostor  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:48:13am

Latest evidence that the Texas GOP is not just a Christian Nationalist organization, but a white nationalist one as well:

“War on white America”: Influential Texas group hosting pro-Christian nationalism conference

An influential grassroots group with close ties to Texas Republican lawmakers is hosting a conference next month that encourages its attendees to embrace Christian nationalism and resist a Democratic campaign “to rid the earth of the white race.”

“It’s absolutely vital we remember that when they say ‘white supremacy’ or ‘white nationalism’ or whatever the most recent scare phrase is, they literally just mean your heritage and historical way of life,” reads the description for a session on “Multiculturalism & The War on White America.” “It’s a culture war, simple as that. Stop apologizing. Stop backing down. Start fighting back.”

Speakers include prominent GOP donor and former state Sen. Don Huffines, retired U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert, two prominent Christian nationalist authors, and Paul Gottfried, a far-right writer who has for years collaborated with white supremacists and mentored neo-Nazis such as Richard Spencer.

Experts on terrorism and extremism said the lineup is particularly concerning because it brings together mainstream conservative speakers with fringe figures who have close links to neo-Nazis and other far-right extremists.
[…]
One of the sessions claims that there is a “war on white America” and that Democrats are trying to “rid the earth of the white race,” mirroring claims of a “white genocide” that have been cited for decades by overt neo-Nazis.

Despite the McCartys’ well-publicized comments, True Texas Project continues to work with prominent elected officials, including U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, Attorney General Ken Paxton, now-former Texas GOP chair Matt Rinaldi and U.S. Rep. Beth Van Duyne, R-Irving. Last week, the group also released a 90-minute podcast with a group of current and presumptive state lawmakers who are primarily funded by Dunn and Wilks, including Rep. Nate Schatzline, R-Fort Worth, and Mitch Little and Shelley Luther.

It should be noted that in the article, that there is no mention at all of legislative or political solutions in the conference, but there are multiple mentions (both covert and overt) for a forced, violent solution.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:48:20am

re: #204 JC1

He didn’t blow himself up. Wasn’t even injured, just surprised. Do you post movie reviews just based on the promo poster?

The cop got mystery chemicals in his eyes. Dumping his water on his face immediately would have been the proper reaction. Also, Bubba should have been in cuffs before the search began.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2024 • 8:52:00am

re: #197 Shropshire Slasher

Why do you feel the need to bully me?

You post things for a reaction (don’t we all?). Don’t insult the reactors.

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A Cranky One  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:00:14am

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:01:57am

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:06:01am

re: #207 wrenchwench

You post things for a reaction (don’t we all?). Don’t insult the reactors.

That is your assumption.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:06:04am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

bsky.app

I saw that and my brain tripped a circuit breaker somewhere. It combines all the elements of modern Republicanism: Self-importance / main character syndrome, willful denial of reality, fear-mongering, and painting “others” as “the bad guys”.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:06:48am

re: #210 Shropshire Slasher

That is your assumption.

Deduction, based on evidence.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:07:27am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

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Is Diaper Donnie running the Rasmussen account now?

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:08:20am

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:08:23am

re: #211 Nerdy Fish

Same here.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:09:33am

re: #213 Dr. Matt

Is Diaper Donnie running the Rasmussen account now?

It’s funny how they all start to sound like him as time goes on, isn’t it? It’s almost like they are aligning themselves around a cult-like figure and doing their level best to emulate him, as a form of flattery.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:09:56am

re: #209 Eclectic Cyborg

Covid polling? Wth is that? They’re just pulling “facts” out of thin air in an effort to demonize vaccines, of all things.

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Shropshire Slasher  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:09:56am

re: #212 wrenchwench

Deduction, based on evidence.

You can do better.

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wrenchwench  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:10:23am

re: #218 Shropshire Slasher

You can do better.

Likewise.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:13:57am

re: #206 wrenchwench

The cop got mystery chemicals in his eyes. Dumping his water on his face immediately would have been the proper reaction. Also, Bubba should have been in cuffs before the search began.

The LEO was trying to get the suspect to admit to probable cause for arrest. You’re right about the cuffs.

“I’m trying to help you out, you gotta help me out, don’t lie to me, I don’t want to take you to jail.”, when all along that’s the ploy to get admission of an arrestable offense recorded on body cam.

Setting off the explosive device was a scene out of Alice In Wonderland.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:16:19am

re: #213 Dr. Matt

Is Diaper Donnie running the Rasmussen account now?

Rasmussen was always RW. Since the sale it’s basically play-for-pay.

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Jay C  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:18:11am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

Covid polling? Wth is that? They’re just pulling “facts” out of thin air in an effort to demonize vaccines, of all things.

SRSLY. I’m certainly no statistician, but even assuming that that “poll” is correct (and given Rasmussen’s longtime and well-known biases, that should not be taken as a given), the “implication” of Holocaust-level casualties-even extrapolating to a “world-wide” basis - is utter bullshit. And they should be ashamed of printing nonsense like this.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:19:08am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

Covid polling? Wth is that? They’re just pulling “facts” out of thin air in an effort to demonize vaccines, of all things.

The basic lie is that this is the respondents’ perceptions, elevated to fact. (At that, it’s not even trustworthy as a measure of perception.)

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:19:46am

re: #222 Jay C

If I’m reading this correctly, it amounts to an argumentum ad populum, namely, “If our polling is right, so many people believe that COVID vaccines killed millions of people that it must be true,” which is such an absurd leap of logic that only a Republican could say it with a straight face.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:23:20am

Note that RCP stuffs its running aggregation heavily with Rasmussen, warping the hell out of their RCP Average.

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:26:08am

re: #220 BeenHereAwhile

The LEO was trying to get the suspect to admit to probable cause for arrest. You’re right about the cuffs.

“I’m trying to help you out, you gotta help me out, don’t lie to me, I don’t want to take you to jail.”, when all along that’s the ploy to get admission of an arrestable offense recorded on body cam.

The appropriate discussion to have with an LEO:
“Am I under arrest?”
If no:
“Am I free to go?”
If no:
“Then I am under arrest. I want my attorney.”
Nothing else is stated until your legal council is present. If your state requires, hand over your ID. Thank SCOTUS for this being necessary.

Setting off the explosive device was a scene out of Alice In Wonderland.

I believe that whole search was the most utterly incompetent I have ever seen performed; not even the trainee MPs I once helped train were that bad. Leaving a firearm on the front seat in easy reach of the person he stopped is particularly idiotic.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:27:37am

Elon Musk Had Sex With SpaceX Intern, Asked Woman To Have His Babies, Claims Report

SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has been accused of having sexual relationships with two of his employees, including an intern, and asking another employee to have his babies, a report has revealed.

In an exclusive report, the Wall Street Journal said the tech billionaire created a culture in his companies - both SpaceX and Tesla - which made the women employees uncomfortable.

This is the latest in a series of allegations against Mr Musk, who has previously been accused of regularly using drugs like LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, mushrooms and ketamine, at times at work with board members.

No one on the Left is surprised.

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A Cranky One  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:29:44am

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:31:14am

Well today is the day.

Click to Reveal

The start of my 64th trip around the sun.

I miss you mom. You did everything for me back in the day. Birthdays are all Mothers day in a way.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:32:48am

re: #229 Rightwingconspirator

Well today is the day.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:33:30am
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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:34:15am

re: #229 Rightwingconspirator

Happy 64th.

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HypnoToad  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:34:49am

I just got a text wanting me to confirm that I was voting for Biden. (Using his complete name) The link to click was unidentifiable alphanumeric randomness. Deleted it of course.

I’m expecting more of these fishing attempts as we get closer to the election.

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Decatur Deb  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:35:28am

re: #229 Rightwingconspirator

Only 64? So now we know where to get our whippers snapped.

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Orange Impostor  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:39:05am

re: #217 Patricia Kayden

Covid polling? Wth is that? They’re just pulling “facts” out of thin air in an effort to demonize vaccines, of all things.

How does “polling” give an accurate number of the number of people affected by adverse side effects (including death) by the various Covid vaccines? There’s actually hard data by the World Health Organization’s Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS) that actively tracks this info.

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:39:10am

re: #233 HypnoToad

I have gotten at least half a dozen e-mails for DT. I block and delete them.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:39:18am

re: #226 William Lewis

I thought cops could detain you in certain circumstances even if you’re not under arrest?

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:40:25am

Jerry West, West Virginia, Olympics, and Los Angles Laker basketball star and NBA Hall of Famer passed away today at the age of 86. He also was the GM for the Lakers during their glory days in the 1980s when they won 6 NBA titles. I won’t recount his many achievements and records because 1, you can search for them yourself and 2, it would take all day.

Suffice it to say, he was one of the greats of the game. RIP, Jerry.

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:42:14am

Accurate

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:42:42am

re: #235 Orange Impostor

How does “polling” give an accurate number of the number of people affected by adverse side effects (including death) by the various Covid vaccines? There’s actually hard data by the World Health Organization’s Global Advisory Committee on Vaccine Safety (GACVS) that actively tracks this info.

This is why I included the bit about inflated self-importance / main character syndrome. It’s a central part of being a conspiracy theorist, and it runs along the lines of, “I have secret knowledge of Facts (tm) that the rest of the world either doesn’t know, or is actively trying to cover up. That makes me The Most Important Person In The World.”

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Dr. Matt  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:45:03am

re: #233 HypnoToad

I just got a text wanting me to confirm that I was voting for Biden. (Using his complete name) The link to click was unidentifiable alphanumeric randomness. Deleted it of course.

I’m expecting more of these fishing attempts as we get closer to the election.

I think one or more former friends signed me up to MAGA/RNC/GQP listservs. I get a lot of MAGA/RNC/GQP text messages and emails. #butthurt

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:46:15am

I hadn’t thought about this asshole in a long while.

Right-Wing ‘Birther’ Conspiracy Theorist Jerome Corsi Is At It Again

Conspiracy theorist Dr. Jerome Corsi has released new book on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy called, ” The Assassination of John F. Kennedy-The Final Analysis.”

A brief review of Corsi’s new tome indicates that the former Infowars Washington Bureau Chief and right-wing gadfly has turned up nothing new or notable in the area of JFK assassination research.

Corsi is the originator of the entire “Birther” movement in the United States, fueled by the false claim that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States, but rather was born in Kenya.

Corsi’s book ‘Where is the Birth Certificate?’ went on to catch the eye of New York real estate mogul Donald Trump, who began talking publicly about his doubts regarding Barack Obama’s birthplace in 2012, demanding that Obama make his birth certificate public.
Corsi’s theory crashed when Obama released a birth certificate while Trump was making an exploratory trip to New Hampshire to examine a potential 2012 Presidential candidacy which never materialized.

Corsi next made news headlines when it was revealed that the far-right journalist had told prosecutors in Robert Mueller’s Russian collusion investigation that longtime Trump friend Roger Stone had contacted him the morning the infamous NBC - Billy Bush “grab ‘em by the p****” video was released publicly.

msn.com

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:47:22am

re: #204 JC1

He didn’t blow himself up. Wasn’t even injured, just surprised. Do you post movie reviews just based on the promo poster?

In fact he was hospitalized.

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William Lewis  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:48:52am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought cops could detain you in certain circumstances even if you’re not under arrest?

Yes but calling it that makes them unable to question you further sans attorney. SCOTUS.

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Orange Impostor  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:49:38am

re: #238 sizzzzlerz

Jerry West, West Virginia, Olympics, and Los Angles Laker basketball star and NBA Hall of Famer passed away today at the age of 86. He also was the GM for the Lakers during their glory days in the 1980s when they won 6 NBA titles. I won’t recount his many achievements and records because 1, you can search for them yourself and 2, it would take all day.

Suffice it to say, he was one of the greats of the game. RIP, Jerry.

A further testament to Mr. West’s greatness is that it is his silhouette in the image of the NBA logo since 1969 (although the NBA officially denies this, most likely to avoid having to pay royalties for West’s image)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:52:06am

re: #229 Rightwingconspirator

Well today is the day.

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Have a very Happy Birthday! And may this be a good year for you and your loved ones.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:53:27am

re: #245 Orange Impostor

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retired cynic  Jun 12, 2024 • 9:55:23am

re: #229 Rightwingconspirator

Celebrate your day!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:01:38am

re: #229 Rightwingconspirator

Happy Birthday!

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DodgerFan1988  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:05:32am
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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:05:44am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought cops could detain you in certain circumstances even if you’re not under arrest?

It’s called a Terry Stop.

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Orange Impostor  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:06:04am

re: #247 Eclectic Cyborg

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I’ll go one better, here’s the picture that Alan Siegel, the designer of the NBA logo states was the inspiration for the image. To my admittedly untrained eye, I think that’s a pretty close match.

Alan Siegel’s inspiration for NBA Logo design
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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:08:43am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought cops could detain you in certain circumstances even if you’re not under arrest?

if you can’t leave you protect yourself by acting as if you are under arrest

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:17:28am

re: #162 lawhawk

House GOP is intent on trying to hold Garland in contempt of congress for not turning over the audio of the Joe Biden interview with Robert Hur.

They got a written transcript, but insist on the audio, so as to recut the audio into attack ads. They want to fixate on Biden’s stutter, which is included in the transcript. It adds nothing to the discourse, but anything to attack Biden is fair game.

These fuckers have no problem covering up felonies for Trump, but insist on this course of action.

Meanwhile, where are the hearings by the Senate into Alito, Thomas, and Roberts and their conflicts of interest? Where are the contempt charges for refusing to attend? There’s a lot more criminality and misconduct involved there, but we’ll get this GOP dog and pony show instead.

Oh, and the House judiciary will be getting Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and his top prosecutor attending session on July 12 to discuss the Trump prosecution, a day after Trump is sentenced.

You an bet that this too will be a dog and pony show where GOPers will spew lies and nonsense, while Bragg and Colangelo hold to the facts and law.

Here’s hoping every single response Bragg gives is “Because donald trump is a criminal who broke the law.” Over and over, again and again.

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lawhawk  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:18:52am

re: #254 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

A jury picked with Trump’s legal team weighing in during voir dire found Trump guilty on all charges. No conspiracy was involved in getting to a conviction.

That’s unlike Trump’s ongoing criminal conspiracies still to be litigated.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:21:50am

re: #228 A Cranky One

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One would think Jenna Jerkoff would have learned something after losing her law practice.

Nope. No matter what she will never stop kissing Trump’s ass.

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:23:57am

re: #256 Joe Bacon ✅

One would think Jenna Jerkoff would have learned something after losing her law practice.

Nope. No matter what she will never stop kissing Trump’s ass.

She’s not kissing Trump’s ass, and recognizes that he’s only involved in the attempt to make America a theocracy for his own benefit, but she’s still a wingnut.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:30:27am

re: #186 Shropshire Slasher

Pro-tip for you bully, don’t click on the link.

Fuck you, troll.

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:30:28am

re: #126 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Washington Post, June 10, 2024

Opinion
Is Donald Trump okay? (Eugene Robinson)

Welcome to the party, Mr. Robinson.

“His story about hypothetically being electrocuted is another glimpse into a mind that is unwell. “

(more)

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danarchy  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:30:33am

re: #233 HypnoToad

I just got a text wanting me to confirm that I was voting for Biden. (Using his complete name) The link to click was unidentifiable alphanumeric randomness. Deleted it of course.

I’m expecting more of these fishing attempts as we get closer to the election.

I just got a text from a phone number in the philipines saying it was USPS and that my package was delayed because of incomplete addressing, please click onthe link below to correct.

Some scams are so sophisticated and almost impressive in their deviousness, and then there are these that don’t even seem to be trying.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:30:42am

re: #257 🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈

She’s not kissing Trump’s ass, and recognizes that he’s only involved in the attempt to make America a theocracy for his own benefit, but she’s still a wingnut.

Of course she is; otherwise she would not be trying to demean Biden.

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KGxvi  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:31:32am

re: #237 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought cops could detain you in certain circumstances even if you’re not under arrest?

Yes, you can be detained but not under arrest. In either scenario, the “script” is:

Am I being detained or am I free to go?
[if being detained]
I invoke my fifth amendment rights and will not answer any questions without an attorney present

Then you shut the fuck up. Or do this:

Mike Ehrmantraut - “Lawyer, Lawyer, Lawyer…” | Better Call Saul Scene

Also never consent to a search.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:31:32am

re: #187 Unabogie

Honestly, I’m not going to click on any video with “blows himself up” in the title, so I didn’t watch it. If people want that stuff, put it behind a spoiler tag. It’s just common decency.

I watched it and found it disturbing. I’m not the biggest fan of cops at times but that was sick.

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:33:14am

re: #260 danarchy

The ones that appear not to be trying aren’t targeted at you. They’re targeted at more vulnerable people, who don’t have the skills or knowledge to recognize the signs of a scam, and are frequently elderly and living off of relatively prosperous retirement accounts.

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danarchy  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:35:46am

re: #261 Hecuba’s daughter

Of course she is; otherwise she would not be trying to demean Biden.

I know lots of people who demean Biden who hate Trump with the fire of a thousand suns.

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TedStriker  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:36:04am

re: #260 danarchy

I just got a text from a phone number in the philipines saying it was USPS and that my package was delayed because of incomplete addressing, please click onthe link below to correct.

Some scams are so sophisticated and almost impressive in their deviousness, and then there are these that don’t even seem to be trying.

Yeah, I got one of those texts this morning myself.

Straight to “Spam and blocked”.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:39:17am

re: #265 danarchy

I know lots of people who demean Biden who hate Trump with the fire of a thousand suns.

But she’s actively trying to harm Biden. Given her position, that says that she still favors Trump. Like Bill Barr who was highly critical of Trump but then said he’s voting for him over Biden. She’s no different.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:40:49am

Anyone have a sub to The Economist? I’d love to know what this says and what the stats are behind it.

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dat_said  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:41:27am

I’m currently listening to an online informational session for Minnesota’s HOMES and HEAR program implementations. These programs are part of the Inflation Reduction Act and related to improving household energy efficiency.

The main takeaway so far is that both programs won’t get rolled out until early 2025. I’ll be holding off on a few improvements until then. Oh, and there will be a form of “navigator” program similar to how MN helps individuals figure out MNSure and ACA insurance opportunities.

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BadgerB  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:41:58am

re: #238 sizzzzlerz

YouTube

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:44:39am

re: #268 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Anyone have a sub to The Economist? I’d love to know what this says and what the stats are behind it.

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Joe biden’s job-approval rating stands at 39%, putting him roughly in a tie for lowest of any president at this point in his term in the history of American polling. In all six states that could prove decisive he trails by between one and six percentage points. In the two where he is closest, Wisconsin and Michigan, Democratic candidates’ margins have under-performed the final polls by an average of six points in the past two elections. Even if he wins both, Mr Biden would still need one more swing state to secure the 270 electoral votes necessary for re-election.

These numbers suggest that the race is hardly a “toss-up”. True, the five months remaining before the vote give Mr Biden time to make up ground, and the polls may underestimate his true support. But it is also possible that his deficit could widen, and that the candidate to benefit from any polling error could be Donald Trump.

In 2016 most pundits and forecasters found it unfathomable that a manifestly unqualified candidate like Mr Trump could win the presidency. This bias was reinforced by polls that consistently put Hillary Clinton in the lead. Now, after a tumultuous presidency that yielded two impeachments and a riot at the Capitol, the prospect that voters might willingly return to office a man recently convicted of 34 felonies seems nearly as outlandish.

Yet surveys suggest it is more likely than not. The Economist’s statistical model of the election—which relies solely on polls, past results and economic data, and knows nothing of Mr Trump’s statements or record in office or in the courts—gives Mr Biden a 34% chance of staving off a second Trump term. That means a victory for Mr Biden would count as only a mild surprise, somewhat more likely than the 30% share of days on which it rains in London. Four years ago this week this model gave Mr Biden an 83% chance.

Why it’s looking bad for Biden
Starting with the national fundamentals, our model’s expectation for Mr Biden (before seeing a single horse-race poll) is that he should win 50.5% of the two-party vote—a bit above his current 49.4% share in national polls, though below the 52.3% he won in 2020. The model thinks he is slightly more likely to gain ground on Mr Trump during the next five months than to lose it: on average, it expects Mr Biden to pick up half a percentage point, yielding a tie in the national popular vote.

Unfortunately for the president, state-level polls do not suggest that the electoral-college advantage Mr Trump enjoyed in 2016 and 2020 has eroded materially. Mr Biden trails by around five points in the Sun Belt battlegrounds of Arizona, Georgia and Nevada, all of which voted for him four years ago. Our model gives him just a 24% chance of holding on to Georgia, where his lost popularity with black voters is most damaging, and 31% and 36% shots in Arizona and Nevada, where his losses among Latinos hurt him.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:45:51am

re: #268 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Not sure, but there have been two other stories recently about either Trump losing his lead or Biden maintaining an edge.

This is why I don’t fucking bother with polls anymore.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:46:29am

Good analysis by former AUSA of Hunter Biden trial & possible post trial moves.

… «This is a case that almost never goes to trial. There are thousands and thousands of people addicted to illegal substances when they purchase firearms, but they are rarely prosecuted by the federal government. And when it happens it’s because they have also committed other crimes. To have these three stand-alone charges is extraordinarily unusual. That said, the facts were indisputable because Biden has confessed to all elements of the crime. Then there is a third fact: there are very serious questions about the constitutionality or otherwise of the law based on who was convicted. Specifically, over the past 20 years the United States Supreme Court has expanded its understanding of the Second Amendment and many federal courts have found that the law under which Biden was convicted is unconstitutional according to this expanded definition.” …

… since those who have argued throughout the country that this law is unconstitutional are the Republicans, at this point they should say this law is unconstitutional, except when applied to Hunter Biden…

open.substack.com

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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:47:48am
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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:50:02am

re: #274 Dangerman

Reps. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) told MSNBC they want to impose on Supreme Court justices the same cap on gifts that members of Congress are subject to.

Said Raskin: “We want a $50 gift ban for justices. They make $300,000 a year. Pay for your own lunch and vacation.”

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:52:03am

re: #275 Dangerman

To the Supreme Court Justices: Brown bag your lunch.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:53:31am

re: #276 PhillyPretzel ✅

To the Supreme Court Justices: Brown bag your lunch.

Pull yourself up by your $300k per annum bootstraps.

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BeenHereAwhile  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:53:53am

re: #263 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I watched it and found it disturbing. I’m not the biggest fan of cops at times but that was sick.

The squad room is gonna be an uncomfortable place going forward for the “Mad Hatter” LEO who conducted the traffic stop, and ironically produced a how-not-to-do-a-traffic-stop video.

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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:53:54am

re: #268 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Anyone have a sub to The Economist? I’d love to know what this says and what the stats are behind it.

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Yeah a clear lead only if you believe the polling, which this far out is nonsense

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Eventual Carrion  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:56:20am

re: #144 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 10:56:29am

re: #271 Joe Bacon ✅

Joe biden’s job-approval rating stands at 39%, putting him roughly in a tie for lowest of any president at this point in his term in the history of American polling. In all six states that could prove decisive he trails by between one and six percentage points. In the two where he is closest, Wisconsin and Michigan, Democratic candidates’ margins have under-performed the final polls by an average of six points in the past two elections. Even if he wins both, Mr Biden would still need one more swing state to secure the 270 electoral votes necessary for re-election.

These numbers suggest that the race is hardly a “toss-up”. True, the five months remaining before the vote give Mr Biden time to make up ground, and the polls may underestimate his true support. But it is also possible that his deficit could widen, and that the candidate to benefit from any polling error could be Donald Trump.

In 2016 most pundits and forecasters found it unfathomable that a manifestly unqualified candidate like Mr Trump could win the presidency. This bias was reinforced by polls that consistently put Hillary Clinton in the lead. Now, after a tumultuous presidency that yielded two impeachments and a riot at the Capitol, the prospect that voters might willingly return to office a man recently convicted of 34 felonies seems nearly as outlandish.

Yet surveys suggest it is more likely than not. The Economist’s statistical model of the election—which relies solely on polls, past results and economic data, and knows nothing of Mr Trump’s statements or record in office or in the courts—gives Mr Biden a 34% chance of staving off a second Trump term. That means a victory for Mr Biden would count as only a mild surprise, somewhat more likely than the 30% share of days on which it rains in London. Four years ago this week this model gave Mr Biden an 83% chance.

Why it’s looking bad for Biden
Starting with the national fundamentals, our model’s expectation for Mr Biden (before seeing a single horse-race poll) is that he should win 50.5% of the two-party vote—a bit above his current 49.4% share in national polls, though below the 52.3% he won in 2020. The model thinks he is slightly more likely to gain ground on Mr Trump during the next five months than to lose it: on average, it expects Mr Biden to pick up half a percentage point, yielding a tie in the national popular vote.

Unfortunately for the president, state-level polls do not suggest that the electoral-college advantage Mr Trump enjoyed in 2016 and 2020 has eroded materially. Mr Biden trails by around five points in the Sun Belt battlegrounds of Arizona, Georgia and Nevada, all of which voted for him four years ago. Our model gives him just a 24% chance of holding on to Georgia, where his lost popularity with black voters is most damaging, and 31% and 36% shots in Arizona and Nevada, where his losses among Latinos hurt him.

Imo job approval is not a reasonable surrogate for “who I’m gonna vote for in 6 mos”

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 12, 2024 • 11:00:34am

re: #281 Dangerman

Imo job approval is not a reasonable surrogate for “who I’m gonna vote for in 6 mos”

Lots of people have perfectly valid critiques of Biden and the things he’s done, or not done, in office. Many of them are Democrats, and have every intention of showing up in force in November, because the alternative is letting fascism gain control of one of the most powerful governments on the planet.

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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 11:04:42am

re: #279 Dangerman

Yeah a clear lead only if you believe the polling, which this far out is nonsense

Note: March 2024 poll

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Dangerman  Jun 12, 2024 • 11:12:48am

re: #282 Nerdy Fish

Lots of people have perfectly valid critiques of Biden and the things he’s done, or not done, in office. Many of them are Democrats, and have every intention of showing up in force in November, because the alternative is letting fascism gain control of one of the most powerful governments on the planet.

And..
A good number of them *are* venting their frustration if they get polled which reduces Biden’s %

For the last 20 years or so, if candidates are within 5 points then you should have no confidence that the leader is in fact ahead.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Jun 12, 2024 • 11:32:36am

[[ moved by me ]]

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🐈 Crush White Christian Nationalism 🐈  Jun 12, 2024 • 11:39:10am

re: #186 Shropshire Slasher

Pro-tip for you bully, don’t click on the link.

You often think like a self-serving authoritarian. It’s stupid.


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