The Bob Cesca Interview: Donna Halper Day

Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Donna Halper Day — My friend Donna returns to the show following the 50th anniversary of her historic airing of Rush’s “Working Man” on WMMS in Cleveland, introducing the band to American fans. She’s also a media historian, author, and radio consultant. We talked about the Hunter Biden verdict, more downsides and upsides of AI, some radio history, the Wall Street Journal’s latest “Biden is old” screed, some Rush talk as always, and so much more. Read Donna’s blog and follow her on Twitter. Meantime, you can support this podcast by subscribing at patreon.com/bobcescashow. Music by The Wildwoods.

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jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 3:49:13pm

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jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 3:50:00pm

Sometimes the Magic works…

…and page refresh to the rescue!

jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 3:53:41pm

Amazon had a big assed bottle of Cholula lime and garlic for under $20 so I have a lot of that taking up room in the fridge.

William Lewis Jun 12, 2024 • 3:55:28pm

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 3:57:54pm

re: #3 jeffreyw

Amazon had a big assed bottle of Cholula lime and garlic for under $20 so I have a lot of that taking up room in the fridge.

I keep a bottle of Tapatio in the glovebox of my truck as the restaurant at the golf course next to our new place only has Tabasco…So I walk in carrying my Tapatio and Jen the bartender holds up a bottle of Cazadores and smiles at me…the back varies - Hard Cider, Little Sumpin’, Racer 5, Arnold Palmer, Shirley Temple…they all go well with it.

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 3:58:17pm

Looking forward to Ukraine blowing a bunch of these fuckers up.

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William Lewis Jun 12, 2024 • 3:58:46pm

Backwoods Sleuth Jun 12, 2024 • 4:01:46pm

re: #1 jeffreyw

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darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 4:08:21pm

Aw…Howard Fineman passed. Pancreatic cancer. 75 years old.

Dave In Austin Jun 12, 2024 • 4:09:13pm

re: #6 darthstar

Looking forward to Ukraine blowing a bunch of these fuckers up.

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— Rocke Fella - NAFO Raccoon Spec Ops (@NAFORaccoon) June 12, 2024

Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅ Jun 12, 2024 • 4:16:04pm

re: #4 William Lewis

+a billion

Dave In Austin Jun 12, 2024 • 4:17:06pm

re: #9 darthstar

Aw…Howard Fineman passed. Pancreatic cancer. 75 years old.

This seemed to happen quickly.
Good Journalist. Not many around anymore.
RIP

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jun 12, 2024 • 4:18:48pm

In my area electric vehicles are rather common, perhaps more so than the state average:

Here's the share of plug-in electric vehicles amongst all on-road vehicles in each state at the end of 2023 (via data from Argonne National Lab). insideevs.com/news/723005/... California leads w/>4% meaning sometime this year, 1 in 20 cars on the road in the Golden State will be electric. 🔌🚗

— Jesse D. Jenkins (@jessejenkins.bsky.social) 2024-06-12T21:16:06.218Z

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 4:22:08pm

re: #10 Dave In Austin

Third year medical student turned drone ace. They have to stay well within artillery range. It’s not like he can fly those birds from 20 miles away.

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 4:22:39pm

re: #12 Dave In Austin

This seemed to happen quickly.
Good Journalist. Not many around anymore.
RIP

Pancreatic cancer is one of the fastest ones at killing you.

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 4:24:41pm

re: #13 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

In my area electric vehicles are rather common, perhaps more so than the state average:

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We have a full underground garage with charge stations where I work. It’s always full. The other floor of the garage is probably 50% EVs.

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 4:24:49pm

So, did a deep dive into the most famous failure of major political polls - Dewey v Truman. All 3 major scienitific polling agencies got it wrong. We again had a President who the polls showed was unliked: 39% approve- 47% disapproved of Truman. Dewey was up by 12% through August. But the polls made some fundamental errors. One was not polling in the last 2 weeks before the election when large numbers shifted to Truman (estimated 1 in 7 did not decide until the last 2 weeks). 75% broke for Truman.The second was that even though Truman was not a popular President, Democratic policies were extremely popular. People were not voting for the man as much as for the policies.That very likely made the difference.

In addition, inherrant errors in the poll construction meant they oversampled rich people (ie poor people did not have a phone line). Studies have indicated that when the polls show a difference of 5% or less, they are really no longer really meaningful for any sort of predictive ability. External factors such as voter supression, turnout, etc. matter much more than who a person says on a phone they will voted for. A likely voter is not the same as a real voter.

Biden and Trump are closer than Dewey-Truman. and they are simly too close for the polls to really mean much. It will be external factors, expecially turnout. I think it is possible that a lot of people who answer a poll they are likely voters for Trump simply will not go to the polls. Heck, we still see 20% actually go to the polls to vote for someone else.

Similarly, many Democrats may say they will vote 3rd party but when the rubber hits the road, will vote for BIden to support the fight for abortion rights, contraceptive rights, gay rights, climate change, healthcare, etc. (we need to keep up the policy pressure). Heck, if they really care about Gaza, they HAVE to vote for Biden because any other choice (ie Trump, 3rd party or no vote at all) will kill more Palestinians. It is a shit world but of the choices, fewer Gazans, Ukrainians, Europeans and Africans will die with Biden. Pure and simple.

The only hope for Progressives to someday get a pony is Biden, Any other choice will negate that hope. But we have to keep that pressure up and not allow :No: to ever be a final answer.

Finally, what I had not realized was even though Truman won over 300 EV, it was still extremely close. If there had been a less than 1% change in the votes in California (a shift of 10,000), Ohio (a shift of 3500) and Illinois (a shift of 15,000), Dewey would have won. If he had won any 2 of those 3, it would have sent the election to the House.

So, other important elections have been frought with worrisome possibilities. But what all the data shows is we need to get every single Democrat out to vote for Biden. The polls are simply meaningless wrt who will win.

jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 4:26:50pm

re: #8 Backwoods Sleuth

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darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 4:27:58pm

Fani’s back!

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jaunte Jun 12, 2024 • 4:28:43pm

NYT (gift link)

Hunter Biden Conviction Undercuts a Trump Narrative, and a Fund-Raising Pitch
nytimes.com

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 4:29:25pm

re: #19 darthstar

Fani’s back!

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jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 4:29:34pm

re: #15 darthstar

Pancreatic cancer is one of the fastest ones at killing you.

That one killed my dad in 1985 - I’m older now than he ever got.

steve_davis Jun 12, 2024 • 4:38:22pm

“Invoices said legal retainer,” Trump states. Yes dumbass, that’s WHY YOU WERE FOUND GUILTY.

GlutenFreeJesus Jun 12, 2024 • 4:42:34pm

re: #23 steve_davis

“Invoices said legal retainer,” Trump states. Yes dumbass, that’s WHY YOU WERE FOUND GUILTY.

Fucker admitted it. 😂😂😂😂

That’s really going to help his appeal.

William Lewis Jun 12, 2024 • 4:46:01pm

Next payday I might just have to order myself a shirt… I’d actually prefer the “Not Flat” because it’s such a sweet take on the NASA meatball but the other is rather on the nose 😉

Place is Geeksoutfit dot com.

Belafon Jun 12, 2024 • 4:47:23pm

re: #10 Dave In Austin

“Son, playing all those video games are going to kill-“

“Russians.”

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 4:52:17pm

I’m cautiously optimistic that the Georgia case could still see jury selection and arguments before November.

steve_davis Jun 12, 2024 • 4:55:00pm

I’ve had a blast figuring out when photos in Dad’s collection were taken from looking for clues, like magazine covers, where even if I can’t read a legible date, I can see enough of a cover to find it in back issue archives. This is maddening, because there’s a freakin’ calendar on the wall, but it’s illegible, and there were a billion wall calendars, so I can’t go searching. Oh well, I guess I just have to leave it at “mid-1950’s.”

jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 4:55:07pm

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Dangerman Jun 12, 2024 • 4:55:58pm

Rudy Giuliani’s lawyers ~~revealed~~[made up that] he has “possible” 9/11-related lung disease as they pleaded with a bankruptcy judge not to let someone else take over his finances, the New York Post reports.

Link

Dangerman Jun 12, 2024 • 4:59:18pm

re: #17 silverdolphin

Dangerman Jun 12, 2024 • 5:02:51pm

re: #23 steve_davis

“Invoices said legal retainer,” Trump states. Yes dumbass, that’s WHY YOU WERE FOUND GUILTY.

Partially because no one could identify or explain any legal services
Aside from the fact that it was a lie

Unabogie Jun 12, 2024 • 5:06:42pm

re: #30 Dangerman

Link

So it was 9/11 and not all the cigars he smokes on a daily basis?

The GOP is a Terrorist Organization Jun 12, 2024 • 5:10:27pm

Consider this whenever you see @elonmusk urging women to “make more babies.”

He’s Commander Fred on steroids. https://t.co/uW63Kvutkj

— Tabatha Smith (she/her) 🇺🇲🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️ (@GrrlGirl) June 12, 2024

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 5:10:44pm

re: #28 steve_davis

I’ve had a blast figuring out when photos in Dad’s collection were taken from looking for clues, like magazine covers, where even if I can’t read a legible date, I can see enough of a cover to find it in back issue archives. This is maddening, because there’s a freakin’ calendar on the wall, but it’s illegible, and there were a billion wall calendars, so I can’t go searching. Oh well, I guess I just have to leave it at “mid-1950’s.”

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I recognized the book that is open on the table almost immediately. It is the Wolf Cub Scout handbook. BUt that does not help much. That particular version came out in 1954 and was printed throughout the 50s. So still mid-50s.

steve_davis Jun 12, 2024 • 5:10:58pm

HA!! 30 photos later, I stumble across that wall calendar at March 1956. There were intervening Christmas photos, so 1955 on that photo. That helps because now, without having to ask somebody, I know mostly what year a cousin was born who has started showing up in the feed.

Dangerman Jun 12, 2024 • 5:11:41pm

re: #33 Unabogie

So it was 9/11 and not all the cigars he smokes on a daily basis?

Saw that did ya?

And if this just popped up, there aint years of doctor reports and labs and scans, it’ll be easy to call it the bullshit it is

I mean unless they get bornstein or even Ronny Jackson
Then id totally believe it

Charles Johnson Jun 12, 2024 • 5:14:24pm

I subscribed to WaPo for a lotta years and used to tolerate the shitty opinions of people like Hugh Hewitt and that Thiessen guy, et al, because there were other things I enjoyed. But there was a point where I just couldn’t stomach the blatant lying of these clowns any more.

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-13T00:13:26.000Z

EstebanTornado1963 Jun 12, 2024 • 5:14:39pm

re: #5 darthstar

I keep a bottle of Tapatio in the glovebox of my truck as the restaurant at the golf course next to our new place only has Tabasco…So I walk in carrying my Tapatio and Jen the bartender holds up a bottle of Cazadores and smiles at me…the back varies - Hard Cider, Little Sumpin’, Racer 5, Arnold Palmer, Shirley Temple…they all go well with it.

Where’s your new place?

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jun 12, 2024 • 5:17:09pm

Hope VB stays safe:

Charles Johnson Jun 12, 2024 • 5:18:25pm

What I really hate about this election is that I’m going to have to post video of Trump because hey, it matters more than ever. But I fucking hate going through this again because it was a real bummer to find out that so many US citizens were shitheads. I mean, 30% I can deal with, but a fucking grifter president? Got damn.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 12, 2024 • 5:19:16pm

re: #30 Dangerman

Link

F Rudy.

Everything he has should be seized and turned over to Miss Ruby and Shaye!

Belafon Jun 12, 2024 • 5:20:55pm

My son was telling me about a cartoon called
Scavenger’s Reign. Max made it and it’s showing on Netflix. Other articles say it’s good but it needs more viewers.

forbes.com

jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 5:24:50pm

re: #43 Belafon

My son was telling me about a cartoon called
Scavenger’s Reign. Max made it and it’s showing on Netflix. Other articles say it’s good but it needs more viewers.

forbes.com

jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 5:27:08pm

A monitor portrait on a portrait monitor.

— Nanoraptor (@nanoraptor.danamania.com) 2024-06-13T00:01:12.191Z

steve_davis Jun 12, 2024 • 5:27:19pm

re: #35 silverdolphin

I recognized the book that is open on the table almost immediately. It is the Wolf Cub Scout handbook. BUt that does not help much. That particular version came out in 1954 and was printed throughout the 50s. So still mid-50s.

that’s actually really excellent! I did figure out 1955 from a photo further on, but yes, my Uncle Ed was an extraordinarily good scout master. I mean, he really knew the woods, swimming, survival skills, etc. It’s kind of cool to me that of course a book that he would be using is on the table. I also chuckle knowing that every piece of electric gear in that photo is top of the line for the time, because he worked for Penn Electric and made sure his sister (my grandmother) got the latest of stuff like dishwashers, clothes washers, etc.

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 5:31:26pm

re: #46 steve_davis

that’s actually really excellent! I did figure out 1955 from a photo further on, but yes, my Uncle Ed was an extraordinarily good scout master. I mean, he really knew the woods, swimming, survival skills, etc. It’s kind of cool to me that of course a book that he would be using is on the table. I also chuckle knowing that every piece of electric gear in that photo is top of the line for the time, because he worked for Penn Electric and made sure his sister (my grandmother) got the latest of stuff like dishwashers, clothes washers, etc.

Very cool. Makes sense as she also had a pretty modern telephone for the time - a Western Bell 302 with neoprene jacketed cables which only became available in 1952, according to Wikipedia.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jun 12, 2024 • 5:35:01pm

Deadline is less than 12 days away:

Calling all aspiring climate fiction writers! Polish those stories and submit them to Imagine 2200! The deadline is fast approaching – submissions close on 6/24. I'm one of the judges, along with Omar El Akkad. Winners get cash prizes and publication! Details here: grist.org/climate-fict...

— Annalee Newitz (@annaleen.bsky.social) 2024-06-12T16:57:30.643Z

However, it looks like they are searching for hopium and won’t like my stories of indentured servitude and roaming gangs of cannibals:

The premise

Imagine 2200 celebrates stories that envision the next decades to centuries of equitable climate progress, imagining futures of abundance, adaptation, reform, and hope. We are looking for stories that are rooted in creative climate solutions and community-centered resilience, showing what can happen as solutions take root, and stories that offer gripping plots with rich characters and settings, making that future come alive.

Dizzy Jun 12, 2024 • 5:37:35pm

re: #135 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Thanks so much!

William Lewis Jun 12, 2024 • 5:39:03pm

re: #45 jeffreyw

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Damn I remember those things. We had one for our DTP person at the state agency I did IT for. Might even be the same model of Quadra we had LOL! Gah…

Belafon Jun 12, 2024 • 5:39:42pm

A Dallas pastor who led a small congregation with no physical place of worship has been sentenced to over 30 years in prison for stealing real estate from three churches.
The Dallas County District Attorney’s Office said a jury found Whitney Foster, 56, guilty of property theft at $300,000 or more after illegally taking the properties of First Christian Church in Lancaster, Canada Drive Church in Dallas, and Nineveh in Dallas.

Prosecutors said Foster, who has prior convictions of identity theft and arson, submitted fake deeds for the three churches, listing a non-existent leader for the victim churches as the grantors and naming his own church after himself as the grantee.

The stolen properties combined were over $800,000, according to the district attorney’s office.

nbcdfw.com

Charles Johnson Jun 12, 2024 • 5:42:47pm

What is the greatest opening lyric of all time?

Nick Cave’s “Red Right Hand” has to be a contender.

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-13T00:40:07.000Z

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jun 12, 2024 • 5:48:33pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

"War"

www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/edwin...

— Freetoken (@freetoken.bsky.social) 2024-06-13T00:47:56.680Z

Charles Johnson Jun 12, 2024 • 5:51:27pm

There’s no wake up call like the wake up call you get when you find out that some of the people you’ve associated with on the internet were just fucking fine with having Nazis in the club.

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jun 12, 2024 • 5:51:50pm

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Got to get those fonts right:

The first page of your document should include your story’s title and word count at the top in Arial 14-point font.

The rest of your document should be in Arial 12-point font with double line spacing, and at least one-inch margins.

Good luck with this:

Your story may not have been generated or written, in whole or in part, by artificial intelligence.

Ferdinand Jun 12, 2024 • 5:58:13pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

There’s no wake up call like the wake up call you get when you find out that some of the people you’ve associated with on the internet were just fucking fine with having Nazis in the club.

I hear you. 20 years ago, as an editor, I worked with the likes of Rod Dreher and Eric Metaxas. I’ve got a lifetime of penance finding and supporting the oppressed, wise, and virtuous oddballs to make up for that phase of my life. That’s why I hang out on LGF 😎

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 12, 2024 • 5:58:17pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

“Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality.”

Is an all timer for sure. As are the opening lines of “Hotel California”.

Also, “Carefree Highway” by Gordon Lightfoot:

“Picking up the pieces of my sweet shattered dream
I wonder how the old folks are tonight?”

jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 6:01:14pm

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jun 12, 2024 • 6:03:38pm

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

My story about a young man fleeing cannibal gangs, he floating northward on some flotsam of palm trunks blown northward by a hurricane, from Hispaniola… who is picked up by some indentured crabbers working off the coast of Carolina and taken ashore to their colony in the Myrtle Beach swamps… only to discover that they are all indentured to the Lord of Waccama, who is driving his servants ever harder in order to pay sellswords to defend against the roving Armies of God…

… is probably not what Grist seeks.

Belafon Jun 12, 2024 • 6:10:19pm

Guess what? Water that was pumped into oil wells in West Texas is coming up to the surface.

texastribune.org

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 6:13:17pm

re: #48 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Deadline is less than 12 days away:

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However, it looks like they are searching for hopium and won’t like my stories of indentured servitude and roaming gangs of cannibals:

I have all the stuff they need - all industry moved onto space platforms with all the power needs supplied by space-based solar, and asteroids supplying the raw materials while industrial areas on Earth become parks; using the huge amount of solar energy to not only actvely remove carbon from the atmosphere but also from the oceans, allowing the pH to return to normal; univeral basic income, coupled with WFH for most, permitting strong economic revival of rural areas; transnational governance to keep bad actors from ruining the planet; outposts on Deimos and Ceres ready to move to Mars once the shelters have been finished at Hellas Planitia, with the discovery of life on several bodies in the Solar System; fusion-based rocket engines allowing high velocity missions to the planets (Mars in 30 days) as well as the Oort Belt and beyond; Star Trek food replicators tha can produce meals in seconds; and more.

And all that is required for this to come true is that a single child must be tortured. Worth it, am I right?

Think they will accept it?

Florida Panhandler Jun 12, 2024 • 6:13:18pm

re: #41 Charles Johnson

A “grifter President” who has promised repeatedly to open up concentration camps, execute a Trail of Tears Mk2, load the border with Mexico with actual fire-ready US Army, create hostile pressures upon allied democracies, treat actual dictators as “smart” friends, establish a judicial system based on his personal whims, basically hand the future of world energy production and car making over to China by being openly hostile to EV technology, wind energy and solar energy.

I am just getting started. We could be here all night.

Charles Johnson Jun 12, 2024 • 6:14:07pm

it’s fucking unreal florida panhandler it really is

Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus Jun 12, 2024 • 6:18:08pm

re: #61 silverdolphin

They’ll probably prefer your story to mine.

I always think that contests like this are about harvesting ideas.

They don’t want us to use chatGPT, meanwhile Grist accumulates a huge trove of stories that they can use later.

Decatur Deb Jun 12, 2024 • 6:19:12pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

“Kathy”, I said as we boarded a Greyhound in Pittsburgh

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 12, 2024 • 6:19:29pm

What is the greatest song of all time?

Ah my RAZZIE gang said this is their AWL TIME RAZZIE CHAM-PEEN!

Sylvester Stallone sings - “Drinkenstein”

Charles Johnson Jun 12, 2024 • 6:21:36pm

I will always believe Merrick Garland should have made prosecuting Donald Trump an emergency-level priority, instead of just another case going through the mill.

It may have been a fatal mistake for the country.

Not to be a downer, but yeah. It’s not like nobody tried to wake the fucker up.

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 6:22:19pm

re: #62 Florida Panhandler

A “grifter President” who has promised repeatedly to open up concentration camps, execute a Trail of Tears Mk2, load the border with Mexico with actual fire-ready US Army, create hostile pressures upon allied democracies, treat actual dictators as “smart” friends, establish a judicial system based on his personal whims, basically hand the future of world energy production and car making over to China by being openly hostile to EV technology, wind energy and solar energy.

I am just getting started. We could be here all night.

I keep waiting for some of them to realize they have Skulls on their caps and are the baddies.

“Are We the Baddies?” — That Mitchell and Webb Look

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 6:23:24pm

re: #64 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

They’ll probably prefer your story to mine.

I always think that contests like this are about harvesting ideas.

They don’t want us to use chatGPT, meanwhile Grist accumulates a huge trove of stories that they can use later.

I wonder if feeding the stories into a LLM is part of the fine print of the contest?

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 6:25:56pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

I will always believe Merrick Garland should have made prosecuting Donald Trump an emergency-level priority, instead of just another case going through the mill.

It may have been a fatal mistake for the country.

Not to be a downer, but yeah. It’s not like nobody tried to wake the fucker up.

I view this like the first 3 years or so of the Civil War. None of the damned Union generals wanted to fight and even Meade’s victory at Gettysburg was kind of a fluke.The war could have been over so much sooner if Grant had been at the top instead of McClellan.

But, to paraphrase Churchill, being good Americans, we do the right things, after we have done everything else.

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 6:28:05pm

Eclectic Cyborg Jun 12, 2024 • 6:29:02pm

re: #67 Charles Johnson

Garland is a Republican. I never put a ton of faith in him TBH.

Nerdy Fish Jun 12, 2024 • 6:30:37pm

re: #70 silverdolphin

I mean, realistically, nobody really knew what they had in Grant up until Vicksburg. George Gordon Meade just happened to be the first sonofabitch who successfully fought back against the Rebel menace, and they stuck with him until someone better came along. Up until that point, they had worked their way through almost the entirety of the command structure of the US Army after the Mexican War, and all had fatal flaws that Robert E. Lee found too easy to exploit.

Cheechako Jun 12, 2024 • 6:32:13pm

Re - The Truman - Dewey election in 1948. I remember seeing Harry Truman at an election rally in Brockton, MA. My biggest impression was all the police on top of the adjacent buildings carrying shotguns.

darthstar Jun 12, 2024 • 6:33:07pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Let my inspiration flow in token rhyme suggesting rhythm

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 6:39:06pm

re: #73 Nerdy Fish

I mean, realistically, nobody really knew what they had in Grant up until Vicksburg. George Gordon Meade just happened to be the first sonofabitch who successfully fought back against the Rebel menace, and they stuck with him until someone better came along. Up until that point, they had worked their way through almost the entirety of the command structure of the US Army after the Mexican War, and all had fatal flaws that Robert E. Lee found too easy to exploit.

Yep.But at least the Union had the structure that allowed Grant to finally get command. I was just thinking we have the same sort of thing today and am watching who will be the ‘Grant’ of our time. I think there are several good choices. Because this war will not be over with the election of 2024. We need to root our enemies out, hammer and tongs.

Charmingly Persistent Jun 12, 2024 • 6:40:52pm

Heard of a van that's loaded with weapons

Packed up and ready to go

Heard of some gravesites out by the highway

A place where nobody knows

— Charming Primaries (@charming.bsky.social) 2024-06-13T00:28:50.956Z

Florida Panhandler Jun 12, 2024 • 6:41:53pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

What’s even worse is that Convicted Felon Trump is obviously more diminished in the head than he was back in 2016. In fact his mental state is such that his minions will likely be in complete control over his actions and words if it comes to it starting in 2025.

This will mean the likes of Stephen Miller, Bannon, MTG and Gaetz will be in charge of actually having immense power over the direction of the country. It will be a shitshow for the country as a whole. But the wealthiest 1%, the media, the plurality of white Christian males will relish in their newly-found power over everyone else. …until they too fail to be loyal or “pure” enough. The traditional pundits already are gaming a future Trump Presidency. They have NO FUCKING CLUE as to what is actually going to occur. All I have to go on is the repeated aggrieved, entitled, xenophobic shit I’ve heard in home living rooms, dining tables, dorm rooms and workplaces since I was 4 years old. This is their time. This is their golden opportunity. Right now. And it is violent and ugly.

Nerdy Fish Jun 12, 2024 • 6:43:16pm

re: #76 silverdolphin

Yep.But at least the Union had the structure that allowed Grant to finally get command. I was just thinking we have the same sort of thing today and am watching who will be the ‘Grant’ of our time. I think there are several good choices. Because this war will not be over with the election of 2024. We need to root this enemies out, hammer and tongs.

And along those lines, it’s going to play out exactly the same way: Hindsight will say, “Why didn’t we elect X sooner?” Well, because like General Grant, whoever X will be is unknown to us now, or maybe little-known is a better way to put it. Someone who is quietly putting in the work, making the sausage, and when we finally put them in charge, will shine brightly in the post-Trump chaos that will surround the final collapse of the fascist right.

Patricia Kayden Jun 12, 2024 • 6:46:14pm

silverdolphin Jun 12, 2024 • 6:49:05pm

re: #79 Nerdy Fish

And along those lines, it’s going to play out exactly the same way: Hindsight will say, “Why didn’t we elect X sooner?” Well, because like General Grant, whoever X will be is unknown to us now, or maybe little-known is a better way to put it. Someone who is quietly putting in the work, making the sausage, and when we finally put them in charge, will shine brightly in the post-Trump chaos that will surround the final collapse of the fascist right.

I agree. That is one of the reasons that a liberal democracy has such a strong organizational structure. It has the ability to raise the right person at the right time to get things done. Monarchies? Not so much.

Decatur Deb Jun 12, 2024 • 6:49:11pm

re: #80 Patricia Kayden

Another woke soy-boy.

BigPapa Jun 12, 2024 • 6:50:43pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Another woke soy-boy.

I drop rhymes slimly like Wokeford Brimley

TedStriker Jun 12, 2024 • 6:51:19pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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re: #53 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

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re: #77 Charmingly Persistent

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I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh Lord
And I’ve been waiting for this moment for all my life, oh Lord
Can you feel it coming in the air tonight? Oh Lord, oh Lord

Patricia Kayden Jun 12, 2024 • 6:52:19pm

TedStriker Jun 12, 2024 • 6:52:40pm

re: #83 BigPapa

I drop rhymes slimly like Wokeford Brimley

Cocoon Brimley or The Thing Brimley?

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BigPapa Jun 12, 2024 • 6:53:19pm

re: #86 TedStriker

Cocoon Brimley or The Thing Brimley?

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Oh shit my wife is calling me laterz-

Hecuba's daughter Jun 12, 2024 • 6:56:18pm

re: #72 Eclectic Cyborg

Garland is a Republican. I never put a ton of faith in him TBH.

Garland is a Democrat and has always been a Democrat, but his experience was with sane Republicans.

Markm1960 Jun 12, 2024 • 6:59:37pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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I like Son Volt “Tear Stained Eye”

Walking down main street
Getting to know the concrete
Looking for a purpose
From a neon sign

Btw… love Nick Cave. Always hearing something new every time I listen.

Patricia Kayden Jun 12, 2024 • 7:00:10pm

jeffreyw Jun 12, 2024 • 7:02:01pm

😹😹

— SqueakynBB (@squeakynbb.bsky.social) 2024-06-11T16:51:49.434Z

goddamnedfrank Jun 12, 2024 • 7:03:25pm

I honestly think the thing they hate most about Joe Biden is how much he loves his son regardless of all the fuckups.

— L O L G O P (@lolgop.bsky.social) 2024-06-13T01:59:19.662Z

The Ghost of a Flea Jun 12, 2024 • 7:03:26pm

re: #60 Belafon

Guess what? Water that was pumped into oil wells in West Texas is coming up to the surface.

texastribune.org

That’s a frightening article. That they don’t understand why the water would be coming up is secondary to uncertainty about how underground water connects up is just bad news.

BigPapa Jun 12, 2024 • 7:10:56pm

Al Gebra

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 12, 2024 • 7:12:34pm

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goddamnedfrank Jun 12, 2024 • 7:16:02pm

re: #93 The Ghost of a Flea

That’s a frightening article. That they don’t understand why the water would be coming up is secondary to uncertainty about how underground water connects up is just bad news.

It also makes me think even less of the deep well injection carbon sequestration idea.

FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Jun 12, 2024 • 7:21:35pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Another woke soy-boy.

Or someone who realizes he’ll be on the outside of the power structure if Trump is elected even though he is a Republican. So he decides to be brave now.

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 12, 2024 • 7:23:20pm

For Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) the Jan. 6 melee was a blip in American history and the ones facing the worst of it are mostly innocent elderly folks who were randomly in Washington D.C.

The lawmaker appeared on Fox Business fuming over federal authorities prowling for January 6 rioters — claiming “grandmas and grandmas” are enduring SWAT treatment.

“We’ve had this massive dragnet, this massive manhunt for grandmas and grandpas that show up on January 6, never enter the Capitol, just happened to be in Washington, D.C. — they are taking agents, SWAT raids to arrest people that are no threat to them whatsoever.”

He then blamed the FBI — and particularly Christopher Wray — for letting these kinds of aggressive arrests take place.

“So no the FBI has become completely partisan, it is wasting resources,” said Johnson. “It doesn’t need to budget increase, it needs total reform, it needs a complete change at the head.

“Christopher Wray, his job was integrity and credibility of the FBI - he has done the exact opposite.”

Johnson was embroiled in controversy in the wake of the deadly attack on the Capitol when a mob of Trump supporters erupted in what was supposed to be a “Stop the Steal” protest in hopes of thwarting the certification of the 2020 election to then-President Elect Joe Biden.

Johnson, through an aide, attempted to secure a hush-hush handoff of an alternate set of pro-Trump electors to then-Vice President Mike Pence minutes before he would begin to count electoral votes on that fateful day.

Johnson’s characterization that the arrests of seniors tied to Jan. 6 doesn’t square with the data.

Of the 716 rioters that were involved that day, Seton Hall University found that mostly men (81.3%) were charged with 28.2% in their 30s, 23.8% between 18 and 29, and 21.8% in their 40s. Conversely, of the women charged — 12.7% — the majority were in their 50s (31.9%) followed by 27.5% in their 30s, and 18.7% in their 40s.

alternet.org

Anymouse 🌹🏡😷 Jun 12, 2024 • 7:26:05pm

My wife and I are back from town to pick up our garden hose reel from Target.

We made a day of it since it’s such a long trip.

We went out for fine dining (Arby’s) and a movie (If). Tagline “You have to believe it to see it.”

Synopsis of “If” behind the hide tag (there are no spoilers)

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“If” (2024, human and animated characters, rated PG for off-screen historical death and abandonment)

A fourteen-year old girl comes to New York to stay with her grandmother. Her mother died when the girl was very young; her father is going in the hospital for heart surgery. Anxiety abounds with both grandmother and child.

Grandmother shows girl all the art works and projects she saved which the girl made when she was very young; the girl insists she’s no longer a “little girl” and no longer wishes to see them.

Visiting dad in the hospital, she meets another child who was severely injured and slowly recovering. Returning home, she sees someone breaking into an upper-floor of a brownstone but they come out again with nothing. A man and an unusual character come out; the man asks her if she has an imaginary friend.

The girl insists she’s no longer a child, and he asks her, “What do you think happens to imaginary friends when children forget about them?”

The unusual character was a cast-off imaginary friend who was trying to become friends with a new child. Children can only have imaginary friends if the child can see them though, so the plan to befriend a new child failed.

The girl befriends the man, who introduces her to a whole slew of other imaginary friends (called IF) who he’s keeping in a top-floor condo in the condo building where her grandmother lives. Grandmother knows the man but not much about him.

The girl goes on a mission to find new friends for the imaginary friends (to take her mind off her father’s serious condition), which fails.

Using her imagination, she figures out how to find homes for the imaginary friends before they evaporate permanently. Along the way, she rediscovers her own and her grandmother’s friends.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est) Jun 12, 2024 • 7:28:52pm

re: #93 The Ghost of a Flea

That’s a frightening article. That they don’t understand why the water would be coming up is secondary to uncertainty about how underground water connects up is just bad news.

If there is any faulting in the underlying structures then there will be potential communication between the pools of underground water. Assuming anything you inject deep is never going to potentially work its way shallow and potentially contaminate the surface and shallow underground water tables is essentially stupid.

But that was the science sold in the past and there has been a lot of deep water injection. (And I presume it is still going on in a bunch of places.) I know that a company I used to work for had to shut down their deep waste water injection wells back in the late 1990s in West Virginia.

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Belafon Jun 12, 2024 • 7:30:08pm

re: #99 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

It’s kind of spoilery.

102

Joe Bacon ✅ Jun 12, 2024 • 7:31:01pm

Rina Shah on Trump’s “guillotine” fundraising pitch

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Belafon Jun 12, 2024 • 7:33:15pm

re: #102 Joe Bacon ✅

Definitely American with her pronunciation of guillotine.

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austin_blue Jun 12, 2024 • 7:34:48pm

re: #8 Backwoods Sleuth

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… moved downstairs.

CL’d again, MPBUH.

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austin_blue Jun 12, 2024 • 8:06:52pm

re: #60 Belafon

Guess what? Water that was pumped into oil wells in West Texas is coming up to the surface.

texastribune.org

No! Really? That’s unpossible! There’s a *New* Mexico?

I can’t believe it!

106

BeenHereAwhile Jun 12, 2024 • 8:11:49pm

re: #16 darthstar

We have a full underground garage with charge stations where I work. It’s always full. The other floor of the garage is probably 50% EVs.

Our neighborhood has its share of EVs.

One dual motor Tesla, 4 or so houses down the street always parks outside the house, so i figure the owner charges it at work.

107

EPR-radar Jun 12, 2024 • 9:51:14pm

re: #98 Joe Bacon ✅

…

Johnson’s characterization that the arrests of seniors tied to Jan. 6 doesn’t square with the data.

…

I am getting beyond tired of shit like this in the media.

It is effectively false to just report that the word-vomit of a lying Republican pigfucker “doesn’t square with the data”, because there’s an implication that it could be an honest mistake.

Republicans can’t make honest mistakes, because none of them are honest. The sooner every sane person realizes that every Republican deliberately lies about absolutely everything all of the goddamn time, and repeats it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for that depressingly large fraction of the electorate with the attention span of mayflies on meth, the better.

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coin operated Jun 12, 2024 • 11:13:36pm

re: #71 darthstar

fucking awesome, darth!

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