Some More News: Where Is All This Fentanyl Coming From?

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Hi. In today’s episode, we look at why fentanyl is so dangerous, why it’s being imported into the U.S. at higher rates than ever, and why American greed is partially to blame for the current overdose crisis.

Hosted by Cody Johnston
Executive Producer - Katy Stoll
Directed by Will Gordh
Written by Lon Harris
Edited by Gregg Meller
Produced by Jonathan Harris
Associate Producer - Quincy Tucker
Post-Production Supervisor - John Conway
Researcher - Marco Siler-Gonzales
Graphics by Clint DeNisco
Story Editor - Michael Swaim
Head Writer - David Christopher Bell

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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:47 - Why fentanyl is such a concern
08:32 - Scapegoating immigrants
16:46 - How fentanyl actually comes to the U.S.
26:06 - Americans are hooked
34:23 - What we could actually do

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105 comments
1
mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:02:15am

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:03:39am

re: #1 mmmirele

Well HAPPY BIRTHDAY! And may you have a Great Day!!!

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Dizzy  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:03:48am

I used to respect Mehdi Hassan. His stances on most things lined up with my own, however I disagreed with him on his Middle East analyses. More recently he has shown himself to be bordering on antisemitism with his latest communiques.

Here he is caught in a blatant misrepresentation that really blows his credibility and shows the fallacy of his “Win Every Argument” position. As David Frum puts it

Arthur Balfour’s touching essay on Zionism, so deceptively quoted in a recent public event. That these words of goodwill could be so cruelly distorted into the opposite of their meaning is a marvel of malice and dishonesty.

Natasha Hausdorff’s rebuttal from the Munk Debates that Hassan lost handily:

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:04:49am

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy Birthday!

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:07:32am

*sad trombone*

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:09:29am

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

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Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

Most excellent - looks good, looks comfy &, most important, looks like _you_. Thank you for sharing that photo with us 🙂

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PhillyPretzel ✅  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:16:31am

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy Birthday.

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dat_said  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:16:45am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

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*sad trombone*

Who else has sniffing a koala on their bucket list? Hands?

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:20:59am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Gee it’s a shame that Fucker C and his Famous Flameouts are getting shunned in Australia!

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:24:46am

re: #1 mmmirele

A very Happy 64th Birthday!! And wishing you a wonderful year!

It was a good day at work for me so many years ago when the company decided that every day was casual Friday!

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:26:04am

re: #272 jaunte

Sarah T Roberts, PhD @ubiquity75.bsky.social

Please enjoy.

I Will Fucking Piledrive You If You Mention AI Again

Reiterating from below, that was brilliant.

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wrenchwench  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:27:09am

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

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Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

Yay birthdays! Yay t-shirts! yay employment.

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:30:17am

The NY Post will crop that photo and exclaim:

“BIDEN FALLS TO KNEES, CAN’T GET UP WITHOUT HELP OF ELDERLY BLAH….BLAH…..WOMAN OF COLOR!!!”

Actual

Today, we honor the tireless work of abolitionists who made it their mission to deliver the promise of America for all Americans.

Happy Juneteenth!

Biden

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darthstar  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:32:31am

Got a facebook memory of me visiting Ada County Jail in Boise 10 years ago. Downloaded the video but mastodon says the .mp4 content isn’t valid so I can’t upload it.

Was hoping to share it as the sound of a steel door locking is something I want Trump to experience.

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Jay C  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:34:11am

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy Birthday!

And from that picture, you really DO look taller!

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darthstar  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:35:51am

re: #14 darthstar

Got a facebook memory of me visiting Ada County Jail in Boise 10 years ago. Downloaded the video but mastodon says the .mp4 content isn’t valid so I can’t upload it.

Was hoping to share it as the sound of a steel door locking is something I want Trump to experience.

Created a link in my google images. Enjoy.
photos.app.goo.gl

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:36:02am

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy 64th birthday!! Hope you’re enjoying your possum shirt and dressing for yourself!!

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Unabogie  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:40:45am

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

Well, happiest of birthdays to you! I heartily endorse your sense of style :-)

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:45:45am

re: #13 Dangerman

The NY Post will crop that photo and exclaim:

“BIDEN FALLS TO KNEES, CAN’T GET UP WITHOUT HELP OF ELDERLY BLAH….BLAH…..WOMAN OF COLOR!!!”

[Embedded content]

Actual

Today, we honor the tireless work of abolitionists who made it their mission to deliver the promise of America for all Americans.

Happy Juneteenth!

Biden

I couldn’t get up unaided from that position!! Would have to grab on to something steady to lift myself. And I’m only Trump’s age.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:57:02am

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

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Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

One advantage of entering your 60’s is your ability to not give a fuck about what others think about you, how you dress, how you live, what you read, etc.. finally, you get to be you. There aren’t enough years left to worry about those things that simply don’t matter.

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Florida Panhandler  Jun 19, 2024 • 11:57:14am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

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*sad trombone*

Ahh. Poor sad Tucker. His dreams of an international pan-white cabal wither. Shame that reality has to rear its head when these all-in right wingers try to expand what is at its core is a mutually exclusive ideology.

The racist populists within every country often have very different economic and political agendas from each other. Tucker is finding this out the hard way.

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Randall Gross  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:00:29pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

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Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

Happy birthday & may you enjoy many many many many more!

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mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:08:28pm

re: #11 Dangerman

Reiterating from below, that was brilliant.

Double agree. If you have not read this, please do. I enjoyed it thoroughly.

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Jay C  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:10:31pm

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

I couldn’t get up unaided from that position!! Would have to grab on to something steady to lift myself. And I’m only Trump’s age.

Me either - it’s the knees; unlike Dark Brandon, I haven’t been building them up on the bike for years….
(And I’m not Trump’s age, either: not for a few more years!)
(too few, but who’s counting??)

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mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:11:56pm

re: #12 wrenchwench

Yay birthdays! Yay t-shirts! yay employment.

Usually I wear a Godzilla t-shirt. Tomorrow I’m wearing my “Mothra: Protector of the Earth” t-shirt. Godzilla is for stomping on bad stuff. Mothra is for protecting the innocent while stomping on stuff.

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:12:00pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. …. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

A good friend of mine used to feed the possums off the deck of his cabin in the woods. They were peaceful little critters, whose fur was surprisingly silky and soft.

I always thought of them as the equivalent of the forest’s night janitors, snuffling about in search of rotten stuff that they’d clean up. They certainly got rid of the plague of snails that was killing my garden.

Also: happy birthday. May you enjoy many, many more.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:13:12pm

Now politicians might finally get around to taking action against microplastics.
www.theguardian.com/environment/...

— John Schwartz (@jswatz.bsky.social) 2024-06-19T18:39:27.986Z

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No Malarkey!  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:13:21pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

Best wishes on your 64th trip around the sun!

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Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:15:33pm

re: #25 mmmirele

Usually I wear a Godzilla t-shirt. Tomorrow I’m wearing my “Mothra: Protector of the Earth” t-shirt. Godzilla is for stomping on bad stuff. Mothra is for protecting the innocent while stomping on stuff.

I still can’t quite understand what was up with the tiny singing Japanese girls and their relationship to Mothra. I mean, the moth was the size of a skyscraper and they were basically mice.

I think it was a cultural thing that evades western interpretation.

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Michele: Out of the closet, Into the fire  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:23:31pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy birthday.

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nines09  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:26:02pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy Happy Joy Joy!

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Dr Lizardo  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:27:20pm

re: #29 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

I still can’t quite understand what was up with the tiny singing Japanese girls and their relationship to Mothra. I mean, the moth was the size of a skyscraper and they were basically mice.

I think it was a cultural thing that evades western interpretation.

The Shobijin (sometimes called ‘the Mothra Twins’) are derived from the Airenas, fairies who accompanied Mothra in the book which the film was originally adapted from, “The Luminous Fairies and Mothra”. The Airenas had the same role in the plot, except there were several of them.

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silverdolphin  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:30:58pm

Willie Mays hits career home run no. 535 to pass Jimmie Foxx

I was there when Mays hit this home run. We were visiting my Grandparents in SF. Dad got tickets to see the Giants at Candlestick. August 17, 1966. We were on the 3rd base side but I still remember that drive to right field. One of my big memories. wish I had saved the ticket stub.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:31:34pm

re: #29 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

I still can’t quite understand what was up with the tiny singing Japanese girls and their relationship to Mothra. I mean, the moth was the size of a skyscraper and they were basically mice.

I think it was a cultural thing that evades western interpretation.

It’s simple! Those are the twin fairies that always accompany Mothra - the Shobijin. Fairies that always show up when a gigantic moth appears. What’s hard to understand?

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William Lewis  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:39:59pm

Went out to check the mail.

Whoops!

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:40:14pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy Birthday! Great t-shirt.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:45:30pm

@shoq.bsky.social

Hey @katyturNBC and @chucktodd, why not spend less time telling us about the voter’s “Trump amnesia,” and more time telling those voters what they’ve forgotten about? Because THAT would be fucking useful. It might even qualify as journalism.

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BeachDem  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:47:10pm

re: #20 sizzzzlerz

One advantage of entering your 60’s is your ability to not give a fuck about what others think about you, how you dress, how you live, what you read, etc.. finally, you get to be you. There aren’t enough years left to worry about those things that simply don’t matter.

Or, more simply:

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:47:39pm

re: #37 jaunte

The running theory seems to be that the voters with Trump amnesia are those who don’t typically tune into politics until the summer (around the conventions). So the people that most journalists are talking to now are people like us, who pay too much attention and thus can’t forget the shitshow.

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Rightwingconspirator  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:47:40pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy Birthday!!

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mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:48:23pm

re: #29 Khal Wimpo (free internal organs upon request!)

I still can’t quite understand what was up with the tiny singing Japanese girls and their relationship to Mothra. I mean, the moth was the size of a skyscraper and they were basically mice.

I think it was a cultural thing that evades western interpretation.

They’re Mothra’s priestesses, called “shobijin”. I think it was to get cute young women in the movie, but that’s the lore. I think I’m going to get the shobijin for my anime shrine.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:53:27pm

re: #39 KGxvi

One of the objectionable elements of Katy Tur’s view from nowhere reporting style is her constant use of the framing “this will be a problem for Democrats” as if no one but Democratic politicians will be affected by what’s happening. Meanwhile, her life has the potential to be upended by the anti-freedom policies one party is pushing and the other is fighting against.

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No Malarkey!  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:54:39pm

re: #39 KGxvi

The running theory seems to be that the voters with Trump amnesia are those who don’t typically tune into politics until the summer (around the conventions). So the people that most journalists are talking to now are people like us, who pay too much attention and thus can’t forget the shitshow.

A large segment of the population consumes no news at all, and won’t be paying any attention to the election until this Fall. That is the group Trump is doing best with, so I think that is encouraging, because as they learn more about Trump, they’ll find him repellant.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:55:15pm

Very good essay at Harper’s.

Of course. That's always been nonsense mythmaking. Not quite the same issue, but the same basic underlying calculus: harpers.org/archive/2021...

The companies benefit from this moral panic belief that they're so dangerous and so addictive. It's nonsense.

— Mike Masnick (@mmasnick.bsky.social) 2024-06-19T19:47:39.356Z

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piratedan  Jun 19, 2024 • 12:59:08pm

re: #42 jaunte

Katy Tur could be sexually assaulted on the air by the entire Trump Cabinet and she would be blaming the Democrats for not protecting her adequately. The GOP has no agency, they are simply agents of a base nature that do what they do.

She’s the anti-Maddow.

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mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:02:55pm

Tony Ortega reports on the denouement of a civil case involving a former NYC police officer and former Scientology private investigator and a woman he had been following, who claimed he raped her. The case settled, unknown terms.

The tl;dr from Tony is this: “I watched a man get away with rape today and he was only here because he thought he was going to make money from it.” And why no, the DA wasn’t interested, nobody was interested.

Scientology PI’s shocking secret comes out as trial settles!

It’s infuriating, and it’s just another cop’s actions that give the truth to the abbreviation ACAB. Because this guy changed his name and is apparently a police officer in Louisiana.

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:07:09pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Not the Onion.

Meanwhile, a February New York Times article humbly suggested the appointment of a “reality czar” who could “become the tip of the spear for the federal government’s response to the reality crisis.”

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:07:29pm

speaking of Louisiana…

Louisiana has become the first state to require that the Ten Commandments be displayed in every public school classroom under a bill signed into law by Republican Gov. Jeff Landry on Wednesday.

ACLU law suit incoming in 3… 2… 1…

edited to include link

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:08:54pm

After Dr. Fauci’s experience trying to defend the scientific processes that support public health, imagine the kind of shit that would be thrown at a general-purpose “reality czar.”

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Unabogie  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:10:37pm

re: #49 jaunte

After Dr. Fauci’s experience trying to defend the scientific processes that support public health, imagine the kind of shit that would be thrown at a general-purpose “reality czar.”

Remember the good old days when new technologies were primarily just used for new types of porn?

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mmmirele  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:16:26pm

re: #50 Unabogie

Remember the good old days when new technologies were primarily just used for new types of porn?

I remember back in the early ’00s, my father said to me, “Don’t you know that porn has been the driver of technological advances?” Then he gave examples. People wanted their porn faster—so we went from dialup to DSL to cable. People wanted to be able to save their porn, so storage space became cheaper. Then people wanted to be able to see their porn move (videos) and storage space combined with cable became oh so much cheaper. And so on.

Today we have advances being made because of the bullshit that is AI. Frankly, I prefer when advances were being made because of porn and cats. /sarcasm I’m no fan of porn but I do understand how porn was an innovator.

You younguns don’t remember ASCII porn, do you? That’s what we had back in the olden days. NOW GET OFFA MY LAWN!

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piratedan  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:19:14pm

re: #51 mmmirele

I’m so old I can remember when you had to buy your porn at the convenience store.

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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:20:54pm

re: #52 piratedan

I’m so old I can remember when you had to find your porn randomly in the woods, coincidentally near an abandoned cabin where nothing bad ever happened after dark.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:21:55pm

re: #13 Dangerman

I’m currently ‘debating’ a purity pony over at FB who claims that voting for a third party Presidential candidate will make things better.

It ain’t fun but someone’s gotta do it.

Okay, it’s a little fun.

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Unabogie  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:23:38pm

re: #51 mmmirele

I remember back in the early ’00s, my father said to me, “Don’t you know that porn has been the driver of technological advances?” Then he gave examples. People wanted their porn faster—so we went from dialup to DSL to cable. People wanted to be able to save their porn, so storage space became cheaper. Then people wanted to be able to see their porn move (videos) and storage space combined with cable became oh so much cheaper. And so on.

Today we have advances being made because of the bullshit that is AI. Frankly, I prefer when advances were being made because of porn and cats. /sarcasm I’m no fan of porn but I do understand how porn was an innovator.

You younguns don’t remember ASCII porn, do you? That’s what we had back in the olden days. NOW GET OFFA MY LAWN!

I think VHS won the video tape wars specifically due to Betamax not having enough porn.

thrillist.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:23:51pm

re: #52 piratedan

I’m so old I can remember when you had to buy your porn at the convenience store.

The first porn I owned was on VHS tapes.

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ericblair  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:24:53pm

I’m not sure where in business school you game out whether to tell your customers (i.e. the ones who pay you for stuff, not users) to go fuck themselves. I, however, am not a business genius.

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Unabogie  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:25:53pm

re: #54 Romantic Heretic

I’m currently ‘debating’ a purity pony over at FB who claims that voting for a third party Presidential candidate will make things better.

It ain’t fun but someone’s gotta do it.

Okay, it’s a little fun.

There is a basic question I pose to people who argue that complex problems have simple solutions: where has this ever worked in practice?

Sometimes, it works. There are dozens of places with universal health care, so that has been proven to work. Ditto for gun bans. Countries have done it, it works, and murders are a fraction of what they are here.

But voting 3rd party to “heighten the contradictions?”

Nope. Nonsense. Pure nonsense.

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Romantic Heretic  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:26:15pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

It’s part of the kayfabe of modern politics.

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wrenchwench  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:26:47pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Microplastics were discovered when they went in for installation of macroplastic. Something tells me it’s a temporary fix.

[…]

The study assessed tissue taken from five men who were undergoing surgery related to erectile dysfunction. Microplastics were found in four cases, with PET and polypropylene being the most prevalent. Both are used in food and drink packaging and other everyday items.

[…]

We need to know more about the fifth person.

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CleverToad  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:30:58pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Today’s my 64th birthday. And I took this picture yesterday to accompany a post on the hellsite where I told some guy half my age that I dress for myself, not for some man, and if I want to wear jeans and my possum t-shirt to work, I’m going to do exactly that. And I did.

[Embedded content]

Yeah, that’s usually how I look at work—hair pulled back into a bun, weird Plantronics headset around my neck, wearing a t-shirt and jeans. And my, that possum t-shirt is comfy.

Happy 64th!
And great shirt :)

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sagehen  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:35:15pm

re: #55 Unabogie

I think VHS won the video tape wars specifically due to Betamax not having enough porn.

thrillist.com

and let’s talk about Polaroids…

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wrenchwench  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:36:37pm

re: #44 Charles Johnson

Very good essay at Harper’s.

[Embedded content]

I used my one free article, ever on this one, which of course I can’t see anymore.

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dharmamark  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:38:25pm

re: #1 mmmirele

Happy Birthday! Great shirt too.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:39:48pm

re: #63 wrenchwench

I used my one free article, ever on this one, which of course I can’t see anymore.

here is link for you

archive.ph

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:43:57pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

micropenis vs microplastic, who is gonna win?

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:45:12pm

re: #58 Unabogie

There is a basic question I pose to people who argue that complex problems have simple solutions: where has this ever worked in practice?

Sometimes, it works. There are dozens of places with universal health care, so that has been proven to work. Ditto for gun bans. Countries have done it, it works, and murders are a fraction of what they are here.

But voting 3rd party to “heighten the contradictions?”

Nope. Nonsense. Pure nonsense.

Even things like universal health care and gun bans can be complicated/complex. Complex issues require complex solutions.

As someone who has voted third party more than once, I get the desire to vote for the person most inline with your world view and/or ideology. And I always find it interesting that Republicans and Democrats say the same thing about voting third party - that you’re throwing your vote away or essentially voting for the other major party nominee (this is, by the way, a terrible argument because as a voter it’s my vote, so I’m not throwing it away, and I’m not “voting for the other guy”, I’m voting for the person most aligned with my beliefs - all it does is make you sound like a condescending jackass who isn’t actually listening to the person you’re “debating”).

But unfortunately, we don’t have viable third parties in our system at present. And the system is set up in a way to quash them, which in turns leads to most third parties being generally unserious entities unable to actually deal with the complex issues facing the country and the world.

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wrenchwench  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:46:39pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

here is link for you

archive.ph

TYVM!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:48:29pm

re: #1 mmmirele

A very hippy birthday to you, my friend! ✌️

Hippy Birthday!
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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:50:58pm

re: #48 KGxvi

speaking of Louisiana…

ACLU law suit incoming in 3… 2… 1…

edited to include link

So which of the 3 versions in the Torah(Exodus 20:2-17, Deuteronomy 5:6-21, and the “Ritual Decalogue” of Exodus 34:11-26. )are they going to post? And they will be in Hebrew, right? Otherwise, it may not be accurate.

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Charles Johnson  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:52:48pm

LOL it was a general point on free speech LOL

“Speaking at the Cannes Lions festival on Wednesday, Elon Musk said his remark telling advertisers to “go f—- yourself” was meant as a general point on free speech rather than a comment to the wider industry.”

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-19T20:28:13.000Z

when he said “go fuck yourself” directly to Bob Iger, the dude was so amped up on something he was practically bouncing off the stage

— Charles Johnson (@charles.littlegreenfootballs.com) 2024-06-19T20:52:00.000Z

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:54:33pm

re: #70 Hecuba’s daughter

So which of the 3 versions in the Torah(Exodus 20:2-17, Deuteronomy 5:6-21, and the “Ritual Decalogue” of Exodus 34:11-26. )are they going to post? And they will be in Hebrew, right? Otherwise, it may not be accurate.

They will be the King James version, of course.

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TedStriker  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:55:00pm

re: #55 Unabogie

I think VHS won the video tape wars specifically due to Betamax not having enough porn.

thrillist.com

It’s an urban legend/old wives’ tale:

The VHS cassette was more clever than Beta

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steve_davis  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:55:39pm

Diablo IV latest season review: This is much better than previous seasons. Everything rare or legendary can be tempered, and the tempers can be bad-assed. I’m currently at level 36 doing something like 350% extra damage to distant enemies, 300% extra to close enemies (enemies within melee range: not enemies one exchanges Christmas cards with). I’ve cleared all the “red skull” dungeon areas in the initial campaign with relative ease, unlike the frustration of watching my Rogue die repeatedly in previous seasons while battling those region bosses. If you’d given up from previous seasons, you really might want to give this one a try.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Jun 19, 2024 • 1:57:17pm

re: #57 ericblair

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I’m not sure where in business school you game out whether to tell your customers (i.e. the ones who pay you for stuff, not users) to go fuck themselves. I, however, am not a business genius.

That’s ok. Neither is Musk, so there’s that.

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KGxvi  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:00:11pm

I think there was a Supreme Court case about this, but it is one of my fun little thought experiments when it comes to expanding the House. Per Article I, Section 2:

The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative

Under that math, California should have 1,320 Representatives. Wyoming would have 20 Representatives. Alas, as I mentioned above, I think there is a Supreme Court case that basically held that the 14th Amendment gives Congress the power to set the size of the House to an arbitrary number, like 435 - I just can’t find it at the moment.

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TedStriker  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:00:41pm

re: #73 TedStriker

It’s an urban legend/old wives’ tale:
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Sony Betacam: Not the Beta you’re thinking of (it’s way better)

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piratedan  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:03:06pm

grist.org
American Climate Corp kicks off…

good stuff, another promise kept and addressing mostly rural concerns with needed projects.

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allegro  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:07:15pm

re: #73 TedStriker

If I recall correctly, the biggest difference in the tapes was the Beta could only record an hour of content, VHS did 2 hours (later more). Most movies are over an hour so it would have required putting in a second tape half way through a movie rather than watch uninterrupted.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:08:58pm

Meanwhile in Canada

Canadian family sues after Catholic hospital prolongs their daughter’s suffering

Samantha O’Neill died of cervical cancer last year at the age of 34.

Despite chemotherapy and radiation, her disease was terminal, and the pain quickly became overwhelming. She ended up going to the closest hospital for treatment and soon decided to make use of Canada’s Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) law, which has been legal since 2016. She wanted to end life on her own terms instead of letting the disease have the final say.

Unfortunately, the taxpayer-funded hospital she was at to treat her cancer, St. Paul’s Hospital in Vancouver, was run by a Catholic organization called Providence Health Care. The Catholic Church, of course, opposes the practice of euthanasia and would rather see patients suffer from incurable diseases than allow them to seek peace. They also won’t allow outside physicians to come into the hospital to do that work—which suggests the hospital itself has the legal right to refuse to provide certain types of care. (In Canada, individual physicians have conscientious objection rights.)

So the hospital told O’Neill she would have to go somewhere else to get the treatment she wanted. But by that point, movement was all but impossible.

It made the final hours of her life even worse than they already were:

She was supposed to have death with dignity. She wasn’t allowed to have it because a Catholic hospital said she deserved to suffer.

friendlyatheist.com

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:13:25pm

re: #79 allegro

Sony did eventually produce Betamax tapes that had longer recording times. Here is something I didn’t know until I looked it up just now: Sony sold blank Betamax tapes until 2016.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:16:07pm

re: #80 Joe Bacon ✅

Meanwhile in Canada

Canadian family sues after Catholic hospital prolongs their daughter’s suffering

Samantha O’Neill died of cervical cancer last year at the age of 34.

This reminds me of Chris Hitchens’ takedown of Mother Theresa, that she would not allow patients at her hospice to take pain meds, I think saying that it would “weaken their faith.”

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gocart mozart  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:16:59pm
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sizzzzlerz  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:28:02pm

re: #75 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

That’s ok. Neither is Musk, so there’s that.

No sure that is important. If you can get your net worth into 10 digit territory, not being a business genius is at the very bottom of your concern pile.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:29:00pm

re: #81 Eclectic Cyborg

Sony did eventually produce Betamax tapes that had longer recording times. Here is something I didn’t know until I looked it up just now: Sony sold blank Betamax tapes until 2016.

To who?

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:30:02pm

“Constitutional conservative” gleefully violating same document.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:35:03pm

re: #86 jaunte

“Constitutional conservative” gleefully violating same document.

If you want a true theocracy, you have to start by indoctrinating schoolkids!!!

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:39:22pm

re: #87 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

No graven images or likenesses

We’re going to have to get rid of those confederate equestrians, governor.

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sizzzzlerz  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:41:14pm

re: #86 jaunte

“Constitutional conservative” gleefully violating same document.

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If only they could agree as to whether adulterers and liars should be shunned.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:41:39pm

re: #88 jaunte

We’re going to have to get rid of those confederate equestrians, governor.

And all those DJT with Jesus paintings

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jaunte  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:41:55pm

re: #89 sizzzzlerz

This is the commandments display with the asterisks all over it.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:48:42pm

re: #74 steve_davis

It’s an awesome revamp of the loot system. Playing a marks rogue right now. Wait until you can start masterwoking your items. Biiiiigggg big boosts. And there are so many more endgame things to do. Andarial’s death throes are hysterical. And, yes, I play way too much.

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Vicious Babushka  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:52:31pm

re: #86 jaunte

“Constitutional conservative” gleefully violating same document.

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How many of these people keep the Sabbath? How many covet their neighbor’s stuff? What about honoring their elderly parents?

Fuck these vice signallers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:55:37pm

re: #76 KGxvi

The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative.

i.e. you can have fewer than 1 for every 30,000 — for example, you could have 1 for every million. That certainly doesn’t violate the provision as long as a state with fewer than a million residents has one representative.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:59:22pm

re: #86 jaunte

This SCOTUS will support the Christianists.

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Patricia Kayden  Jun 19, 2024 • 2:59:57pm

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:02:29pm

re: #15 Jay C

Happy Birthday!

And from that picture, you really DO look taller!

+1

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:03:29pm

re: #19 Hecuba’s daughter

I couldn’t get up unaided from that position!! Would have to grab on to something steady to lift myself. And I’m only Trump’s age.

i told mrsdm a sign of aging is formulating an exit plan before you kneel down for anything

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allegro  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:04:32pm

re: #86 jaunte

So Moses did it? Not god? Hmmm

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wrenchwench  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:04:37pm

Ruidoso is looking better.

Mastodon

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:05:20pm

re: #99 allegro

So Moses did it? Not god? Hmmm

Teaching us that we should obey our Jewish overlords.

/

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Nerdy Fish  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:06:15pm

re: #101 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Teaching us that we should obey our Jewish overlords.

/

On that note, isn’t forcing the Ten Commandments to be displayed in schools, like, cultural appropriation? Us Christians just kinda piggybacked on that whole Jewish thing, y’know.

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:13:35pm

re: #93 Vicious Babushka

How many of these people keep the Sabbath? How many covet their neighbor’s stuff? What about honoring their elderly parents?

Fuck these vice signallers.

i’d settle for one that didnt lie;
constantly

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Dangerman  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:14:45pm

re: #96 Patricia Kayden

[Embedded content]

what’s the plan?

^ this this this this ^

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Hecuba's daughter  Jun 19, 2024 • 3:17:56pm

re: #103 Dangerman

i’d settle for one that didnt lie;
constantly

The 10 Commandments say nothing about lying, only about bearing false witness against your neighbor. Wonder how that extends to those who are not your neighbors — like a judge or a prosecutor in a case against you.


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