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1 Gus  Jul 19, 2010 6:31:16pm

Crazy.

2 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2010 6:51:38pm

re: #1 Gus 802

Crazy.

I’m sure this all goes through the Fox Legal Department first but I really wonder where the legal line is here. Especially in light of the guy this weekend who had the shootout with the police because he thought the government was oppressing him. At what point does Glenn Beck run into legal trouble. Saying “The government is going to murder you” is pretty close to “If you see a federal official then your life is in danger and you should protect yourself”.
Does anyone know where the legal line is?

3 freetoken  Jul 19, 2010 6:54:12pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Spouting ideological idiocy, event one that includes violent overtones, is still protected speech.

There is no end of this drivel, for Beck knows it’s too lucrative.

4 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2010 6:57:18pm

re: #3 freetoken

Spouting ideological idiocy, event one that includes violent overtones, is still protected speech.

There is no end of this drivel, for Beck knows it’s too lucrative.

But how far can it go? Clearly he can’t tell his followers to kill cops but how much fear can he create before it becomes a legal issue?

5 Killgore Trout  Jul 19, 2010 6:59:25pm

For example: Let’s suppose an Imam gives a sermon and tells his followers that the Jewish temple down the street is plotting to kill Muslims and his congregation burns down the temple. Is the Imam legally responsible?

6 freetoken  Jul 19, 2010 7:13:01pm

re: #4 Killgore Trout

You’ll have to ask lawhawk about the formal definition of “conspiracy”, but I suspect to be guilty of conspiring to commit a crime involves listing of particulars about the victim/crime.

“Inspiring” is legal. “Conspiring” is illegal. That’s my take on it, but I’m not a lawyer and don’t play one on the net so you’ll need to get an expert.

7 sagehen  Jul 19, 2010 7:13:23pm

He’s leaving out the part that this policy was approved in regard to the imam in Yemen who’s been linked to both the guy at Ft Hood and the underwear bomber; even though the guy’s in Yemen, it turns out he’s an American citizen.

When this was announced a few months ago, lots of liberals were very upset (including, as Glenn notes, the ACLU), and it was conservatives who said “fuck his citizenship, he’s a terrorist imam getting Americans killed, hell yes we should take him out without trial if we get a clear shot.” Liberals were the ones saying “a citizen is a citizen, don’t do it”.

The people Glenn is trying to whip into a frenzy about this are *exactly* the people who argued vehemently IN FAVOR of what he’s now trying to get them to be opposed to.

8 chonguey  Jul 19, 2010 8:49:59pm

I am a white Mormon guy from the heart of Utah, and I hate every bit of fear-mongering filth that descends from Glenn Becks mouth.

Please, Lord, deliver us from Glenn Beck.


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