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1 Sheila Broflovski  Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:43:44pm

Apparently the upload resizes the flowchart. You will have to click through to the link to view the full size graphic.

2 Michael McBacon  Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:49:07pm

Thank you for posting this, Alouette.

3 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:00:10pm

re: #1 Alouette

I wanted to hear your view on Deir Yassin.

4 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sun, Jun 5, 2011 11:03:46pm

Ha! Excellent. Are there a lot of people who stereotype Jews as being avarice and devious? Geezus, people can be real shit heads.

5 shutdown  Sun, Jun 5, 2011 11:29:46pm

re: #3 ProLifeLiberal

I wanted to hear your view on Deir Yassin.


Why settle for a view when you can have facts. And if you counter post a Wikipedia page

Deir Yassin

6 shutdown  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 5:30:10am

re: #5 imp_62

Why settle for a view when you can have facts. And if you counter post a Wikipedia page

Deir Yassin

It was after 2 am and I pressed "Post" before I had completed my comment. I am deeply disturbed by the nature and placement of your question here, ProLifeLiberal. I have posted a page that attempts to present an objective account of the Deir Yassin battle, and if you post some propaganda-laden Wiki page as a response, I will be seriously pissed off.

There is no doubt that civilians died at Deir Yassin. They did not die in the course of some brutal massacre of unarmed villagers at the hands of bloodthirsty Israeli Irgun fighters. Deri Yassin had become par of the front line in a war of aggression by overwhelming Arab forces immediately following the declaration of the State of Israel. The village was a forward base for armed Arab Legion fighters. From a military strategy/capability perspective, the Israeli War of Independence took place in the immediate aftermath of WWII. No drones, no "surgical strikes". Civilian casualties in wars up to that point were a large percentage of overall casualty numbers, as sad as that may be. Soldiers and civilians perished in far greater proportion than they do in modern warfare.

There are also sources that indicate that the Arabs purposefully overstated the casualty numbers at Deir Yassin, as well as the nature of Israeli actions towards the civilian population, in an effort to pump up Arab outrage (sound familiar? This tactic is still popular today). There has also been much speculation that this type of exaggeration played a part in the mass exodus of Arabs from Israeli territory, as the civilian population expected rape and torture at the hands of Israeli soldiers.

Now as to you: Why did you ask this question on this page?

7 Buck  Mon, Jun 6, 2011 11:45:54am

re: #3 ProLifeLiberal

I would like to hear your view on the 1,256 Jews that had been killed, most of them civilians in the period of November 29, 1947 to May 15, 1948.

These deaths were caused by Arab militias, gangs, terrorists and army units which attacked every place of Jewish inhabitation in Palestine.

December 1947 – Small kibbutzim were subjected to attacks – Gvulot, Ben-Shemen, Holon, Safed, Bat Yam and Kfar Yavetz. Sixty-two Jews were murdered by Arabs around Palestine.

December 30, 1947 – 39 Jews were killed by Arab rioters at Haifa’s oil refinery

January 16, 1948 – 35 Jews were killed trying to reach Gush Etzion

February 22, 1948 – 44 Jews were murdered in a bombing on Jerusalem’s Rehov Ben-Yehuda

February 29, 1948 – 23 Jews were killed all across Palestine, eight of them at the Hayotzek iron foundry.

January and February 1948 – Rishon Lezion, Yehiam, Mishmar Hayarden, Tirat Zvi, Sde Eliahu, Ein Hanatziv, Magdiel, Mitzpe Hagalil and Ma’anit were all subjected to attacks. Arab attackers also bombedThe Palestine Post
April 13, 1948 – 35 Jew were murdered during the Mount Scopus convoy massacre

March and April – Assault on Hartuv by 400 Arabs based in the village of Ishwa and an attack on Kfar Darom by members of the Muslim Brotherhood. The Jewish Agency, the Solel Boneh building in Haifa and an Egged bus were bombed.

May 15, 1948 – 127 Jews were massacred at Kfar Etzion, after 30 others had died defending the Etzion Bloc.


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