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Perry Rally Speaker: ‘there is no other God besides Jesus’

OK, I thought Jesus was the son of God. Maybe I missed something

By Kragar

Wingnuts • August 2011 • Views: 1,320

rightwingwatch.org

it was no surprise to see IHOP’s Mike Bickle, who believes that Oprah is a forerunner to the Antichrist, take to the stage and rail against those who are “redefining love” against the teaching of the Bible while declaring repeatedly that regardless of what other religions say, “there is no other God besides Jesus” nor any other standard of truth:

The more they talk, the more I dig in against their lunacy. People like this are why I cannot foresee ever voting for any member of the GOP again.

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10 comments

Buck Sat, Aug 6, 2011 9:06:14pm

I wonder where this persons right to his own freedom to express his own religious beliefs start?

I mean if a muslim person speaking at a Minnesota rally for Kieth Ellison said "Allah Akbar", would it be equally offensive to you?

What, me worry? Sat, Aug 6, 2011 9:21:19pm

re: #1 Buck

I wonder where this persons right to his own freedom to express his own religious beliefs start?

I mean if a muslim person speaking at a Minnesota rally for Kieth Ellison said "Allah Akbar", would it be equally offensive to you?

Well this rally was strictly for Christians to pray and preach about Jesus (or their perception). I imagine Keith Ellison wouldn't have a rally specifically to preach Islam, but if he did, no it wouldn't be unusual for someone to be espousing religion. If he had a rally for his political party and someone started preaching Islam, that would be wrong. As it would be for Gov Perry.

My problem with Bickle is the whole Oprah, The Anti-Christ meme. He says that her charity work (helping children, charter schools, Katrina victims to name a few) are secretly the work of the devil.

Sionainn Sun, Aug 7, 2011 5:22:56am

re: #1 Buck

I wonder where this persons right to his own freedom to express his own religious beliefs start?

I mean if a muslim person speaking at a Minnesota rally for Kieth Ellison said "Allah Akbar", would it be equally offensive to you?

How can "God is great" be construed as offensive to any person who believes in God?

dragonfire1981 Sun, Aug 7, 2011 6:50:01am

re: #3 Sionainn

How can "God is great" be construed as offensive to any person who believes in God?

Christians believe Muslims worship a different God than they do hence Allahu Akbar equals praise for a false God, something people were put to death for in the Old Testament.

Varek Raith Sun, Aug 7, 2011 8:25:04am

Really?
I mean, it's an awfully big list.
How does he know his god's the real one and the others false???
[Link: ancienthistory.about.com...]
Many more than what's on that list.
:)

What, me worry? Sun, Aug 7, 2011 9:57:10am

re: #5 Varek Raith

Really?
I mean, it's an awfully big list.
How does he know his god's the real one and the others false???
[Link: ancienthistory.about.com...]
Many more than what's on that list.
:)

I don't think the issue really is about Christians having a prayer rally or what they believe. There's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is that a governor organized a very specific religious rally and what I should have mentioned above. A governor is supposed to be representing all people in their state and I would think all politicians need to be very careful how they are perceived in favoring one group over another.

Of course, everyone is entitled to attend services at their religion of choice, but The Response wasn't that at all.

Sionainn Sun, Aug 7, 2011 10:45:11am

re: #4 dragonfire1981

Christians believe Muslims worship a different God than they do hence Allahu Akbar equals praise for a false God, something people were put to death for in the Old Testament.

I've read some stuff this morning that verifies what you say, and then I've read other things that back up what I said. Your text to link...

Seems to be a silly and harmful way to think...that your God is best or the only true God or that your God is not the same God as other religions, particularly the Abramahic religions. It immediately sets up "others" as the enemy and we see where that leads us.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 7, 2011 10:49:21am

re: #6 marjoriemoon

I don't think the issue really is about Christians having a prayer rally or what they believe. There's nothing wrong with that. What's wrong is that a governor organized a very specific religious rally and what I should have mentioned above. A governor is supposed to be representing all people in their state and I would think all politicians need to be very careful how they are perceived in favoring one group over another.

Of course, everyone is entitled to attend services at their religion of choice, but The Response wasn't that at all.

Yeah. I'm not interested in criticizing evangelical theology, unless it's coming out of the mouth of someone who's running for public office, and has plans to make it public policy.

Then the gloves come off.

As for the original question, a lot of these intense evangelical groups seem to refer to 'Jesus' in situations where other Christians would say 'God', or 'God the Father', or 'the Trinity', or 'the Holy Ghost'. I assume there is some theological purpose behind this, I also think it has to do with their intense focus on personal redemption through Christ.

SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 7, 2011 10:50:12am

re: #7 Sionainn

I've read some stuff this morning that verifies what you say, and then I've read other things that back up what I said. Your text to link...

Seems to be a silly and harmful way to think...that your God is best or the only true God or that your God is not the same God as other religions, particularly the Abramahic religions. It immediately sets up "others" as the enemy and we see where that leads us.

Dragonfire is missing a sarc tag I think.

Sionainn Sun, Aug 7, 2011 10:56:41am

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist