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29 comments
29 comments
1 | MPH Thu, Sep 13, 2012 8:22:01pm |
That is the edgiest thing The Onion has published in years. Kudos.
Ganesha is a hermaphrodite?
2 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 13, 2012 9:19:11pm |
I think there's more to edgy than a cartoon cluster of religious figures having an orgy. I get that they think they have some sort of witty point here, but...it's a touch off. Random example: they think Hindu extremists have never murdered anyone?
No, they just think Hindu extremists will leave the U.S. Embassy alone, so who gives a damn? Not attacking us is practically the same as being nonviolent!
5 | Gus Thu, Sep 13, 2012 9:32:16pm |
If you're killing people for what you believe in you're fucking nuts. True story.
6 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 13, 2012 9:32:52pm |
8 | SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 13, 2012 9:41:43pm |
9 | jaunte Thu, Sep 13, 2012 9:41:57pm |
11 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:13:01am |
Downding for your subtitle. Christianity has, in the past, slaughtered people for far less than an image like that. So have Hindus, so have Buddhists. Religions are not better than one another. The culture and socities that contain them may be, but the religions themselves are just a subset of that culture, and you'll find the 'good' religions in post-enlightenment societies. It's not the religion. It's whatever the culture has had to moderate and reform the religion.
12 | dragonath Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:36:03am |
I bet if someone showed this to some fundamentalists Christians in Uganda, they would not be amused.
re: #11 Obdicut
What can you expect, look at his bigoted avatar image.
13 | Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:39:25am |
Outrage! Come on, give me a break. That's the title from The Onion and that's a cartoon from the Onion. I first found out about it from Jeffrey Goldberg. This is place is starting to scare me. Soon you'll be calling for blasphemy laws.
14 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:41:35am |
re: #13 Gus
Outrage! Come on, give me a break. That's the title from The Onion and that's a cartoon from the Onion. I first found out about it from Jeffrey Goldberg. This is place is starting to scare me. Soon you'll be calling for blasphemy laws.
Yeah, Gus, I'm going to call for blasphemy laws. That's a reasonable position to take. For fuck's sake.
This is the subtitle I was talking about:
Some religions are less terrible than others.
Which, you know, was what my whole fucking post was about.
15 | Eclectic Infidel Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:50:36am |
re: #11 Obdicut
Downding for your subtitle. Christianity has, in the past, slaughtered people for far less than an image like that. So have Hindus, so have Buddhists. Religions are not better than one another. The culture and socities that contain them may be, but the religions themselves are just a subset of that culture, and you'll find the 'good' religions in post-enlightenment societies. It's not the religion. It's whatever the culture has had to moderate and reform the religion.
All that is true, but are Christians going bat guano crazy and murdering people TODAY for criticizing Christianity?
Were there murderous and violent riots when Piss Christ was released to public viewing?
The fact that there are still Muslims who murder for the sake of their faith is proof positive of the need for more social evolution within Islam.
There. I said it.
16 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:54:20am |
re: #15 Eclectic Infidel
All that is true, but are Christians going bat guano crazy and murdering people TODAY for criticizing Christianity?
Nope. Because of the Enlightenment, and the values it forced on Christian cultures.
The fact that there are still Muslims who murder for the sake of their faith is proof positive of the need for more social evolution within Islam.
Sure. But Islam isn't monolithic. There are plenty of Muslims alive now who are completely post-Enlightenment in their religious thinking, like most American Muslims.
It is not the religion, it is the culture in which the religion rests. There are still Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist fanatics in the world.
It is not the religion that reforms itself; society reforms the religion. Christianity did not significantly improve until the idea of individual rights was fought for and established.
17 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 10:59:24am |
Zero Muslims in the US reacted to the release of this film by rioting-- or even fucking protesting, as far as I know. Probably soon there will be a few insignificant assholes.
So why are people comfortable blaming "Islam"? Clearly, it is not Islam.
18 | Gus Fri, Sep 14, 2012 11:00:00am |
re: #14 Obdicut
Yeah, Gus, I'm going to call for blasphemy laws. That's a reasonable position to take. For fuck's sake.
This is the subtitle I was talking about:
Which, you know, was what my whole fucking post was about.
Ah, OK. Missed that. Yeah, not crazy about that avatar either. I've got a headache.
19 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 11:00:25am |
re: #18 Gus
Ah, OK. Missed that. Yeah, not crazy about that avatar either. I've got a headache.
Take 'er easy.
20 | blueraven Fri, Sep 14, 2012 12:42:49pm |
Look the onion can post whatever images they please, I like the onion.
I just dont happen to think this image is all that.
So now if we dont particularly care for an image, we are some kind of what?...I dont even know. I think it is a bit crass and opportunistic.
It is an opinion. That is still allowed, no?
21 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:34:36pm |
re: #20 blueraven
The Onion is pretty much always offending someone. But they're about as unbiased as can be, and they satirize everyone regardless of faith, creed, color, etc. I don't think this was one of their best efforts, but it's the goddamn Onion.
22 | Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:40:21pm |
re: #21 Obdicut
The Onion is pretty much always offending someone. But they're about as unbiased as can be, and they satirize everyone regardless of faith, creed, color, etc. I don't think this was one of their best efforts, but it's the goddamn Onion.
Has 'offending' become a virtue in and of itself? In both Pittsburgh and Alabama they have a common word for people who offend large numbers of people without provocation. We call them 'asshole'.
Hope that didn't offend anyone.
23 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:43:58pm |
re: #22 Decatur Deb
In The Onion's case, I think they don't at all worry about who they're going to offend, but they really do cleave to the mission of making people laugh.
Their post-9/11 paper was, at the time, very important to me.
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I really don't think the Onion has ever just set out to offend.
24 | Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:47:19pm |
re: #23 Obdicut
In The Onion's case, I think they don't at all worry about who they're going to offend, but they really do cleave to the mission of making people laugh.
Their post-9/11 paper was, at the time, very important to me.
God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule
U.S. Vows To Defeat Whoever It Is We're At War With
American Life Turns Into Bad Jerry Bruckheimer Movie
I really don't think the Onion has ever just set out to offend.
Yup. That's the textbook definition of 'asshole'.
Normally love The Onion, don't love any gods, and don't love outrage for the sake of making a weak point. (Looking at you, Sarah Silverman.)
25 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:52:45pm |
re: #24 Decatur Deb
The comics on the edge are always going to step over on occasion. That's the price of being on the edge. But it's much better that we have them, than that we have people afraid of approaching the edge.
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26 | blueraven Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:52:50pm |
re: #21 Obdicut
The Onion is pretty much always offending someone. But they're about as unbiased as can be, and they satirize everyone regardless of faith, creed, color, etc. I don't think this was one of their best efforts, but it's the goddamn Onion.
I am not so much offended, more that I just dont think it is that funny. It seems forced as if it is trying a bit too hard.
I am no prude and enjoy a good laugh with NSFW comics. I certainly have no issue with them posting the image.
But personally... this one doesnt cut it for me.
27 | Obdicut Fri, Sep 14, 2012 1:55:44pm |
re: #26 blueraven
Yeah, I don't think it's that great, except for the sighing and rolling their eyes bit, which got a chuckle. But it's a rare miss.
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28 | Sheila Broflovski Fri, Sep 14, 2012 3:59:43pm |
Where is the Spaghetti Monster? Where is Xenu? Why are they left out of the fun?