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1 HappyWarrior  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:23:19pm

Oh shut the fuck up D'Sousa. Really this guy's nothing but a hack.

2 nines09  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 2:44:11pm

I assume he makes a living doing this. Either that or he got a piece of change for his soul.

3 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:14:19pm

They're really going all out with the crazed xenophobic bullshit.

4 cinesimon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:21:36pm

And by "allies", of course, he means brutal dictators. Surprise surprise.
D'souza has made a big deal of his origins, suggesting that because he's from India, he cannot be racist - once again relying on the ignorance of Americans, given that a not insignificant proportion of India's 'upper classes'(a system that is very much alive and well) are some of the most viciously racist on the planet. It is these people whose values he reflects. Bizarre conspiracy theories are what those idiots feed on - and they justify it all by class and cultural differences. They cheerfully and with righteousness repress the sub-humans in the classes below with a combination of police and economics - they truly are a modern day version of Nazis - of course they're not engaged in any 'final silution', because the massive amount of poverty all around them, while they sip martinis, is confirmation as to just how sub-human the 'other' is. D'Souza is relatively moderate compared to some of them.
But anyway that's where he gets his hate and ability to present bizarre, childish nonsense as fact. He really does think he's more human than most people - and in America, especially African Americans.

5 Buck  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:40:12pm

So no one but me sees the jigsaw puzzle of quotes in the title?

Obama Is 'Actively Supporting' 'Radical Muslims' To Seize 'Global Power'

Three different two word quotes strung together to make a sentence that nobody said.

I mean really.... you can't accept the whole sentence: "If You've Got A Business, You Didn't Build That." but can string together these non-sentences to make a sentence that doesn't even make sense.

Weird.

6 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:43:07pm

re: #5 Buck

D’Souza: "I think what we're seeing is very troubling, we're seeing a real bid by the radical Muslims to do something that they haven't done in 400 years which is to attempt to restore Islam as a global power and they see an opportunity to do this thanks to the Obama administration's complete abdication of responsibility, one by one our allies are falling in the region, one by one our adversaries are coming to power, and Obama doesn't just seem unbothered by this he seems to be actively supporting it."

It's a little long for a headline.

7 Destro  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 4:45:21pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

They're really going all out with the crazed xenophobic bullshit.

This was planned:

From 9/15:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Mitt Romney's Last-Ditch Strategy: Inflame the Wingnut GOP Base

GOP can't win the swing vote, so they're going with Plan B: Rile up the base.

8 simoom  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:33:07pm

And Fox keeps having this guy on, having him write for their website, and promoting his movie on their shows (like The Five)...

9 JeffFX  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 6:41:18pm

D’Souza was on the dialog portion of Real Time with Bill Maher a couple of weeks ago. It was nice to see a host call D'Souza on his completely mad reasoning, even if that host has some wackadoodle beliefs himself.

10 Buck  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:11:03pm

re: #6 jaunte

You can't assemble the words said and come up with the quote you want.

You would not allow it if someone did that with an Obama speech.

11 Buck  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:19:09pm

re: #7 Destro

This was planned:

Ya, this was planned all along because you said so?

Seriously? This is what we call actual discussion?

I am bored. The OP takes then words out of a paragraph and rearranges them to say something completely different.

And you make constructive criticism of Obama's foreign policy decisions by the official opposition during an election as "birther".

Basically all any of you are doing is making shit up and hoping it sticks. And even if it doesn't stick, you are just announcing that it did.

Boring.

12 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:21:00pm

re: #10 Buck

You're wrong, and it's pretty clear that you didn't click through and read the linked article before you tried this bit of false equivalence.

13 Buck  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:26:15pm

re: #12 jaunte

You're wrong, and it's pretty clear that you didn't click through and read the linked article before you tried this bit of false equivalence.

If I interpret this the way that you with your obviously biased lens wants me too.

Either you have a quote or you don't.

Taking a series of two word quotes and arranging them together is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

It is actually beneath this website. It is like photo shopping pictures to say what you think might have happened.

We used to mock this sort of thing, not upding it!!

14 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:29:18pm

re: #13 Buck

What do you think that paragraph I quoted says? Can you summarize it in a headline form?

15 Buck  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:48:46pm

First of all what he said is not deserving of a headline. It is not so radical to think that Obama does not see any thing wrong with those who get elected taking power, no matter who they are.

If you have seen evidence of Obama being active in opposing the people taking power in the vacuums left behind when the dictators are toppled you might show me.

Obama's foreign policy is that he will "extend a hand if you are willing to un-clench your fist".

This goes back to the whole it is better to talk to our enemies. The I would meet with our enemies....

You might think that is fine and dandy.

Dinesh D'Souza disagrees. He has every right to disagree. It is not news, or even Republican policy. He is an author and political commentator.

16 Buck  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 7:52:48pm

I wonder... is Obama Is 'Actively Supporting' 'Radical Muslims' to come to Seize 'Global Power' the same thing to you?

Isn't the most offensive part of the fake quote that Obama would never support anyone to seize GLOBAL power?

It is ok for him to support the winner of an election to take power in their countries right?

17 thecommodore  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 8:59:06pm

re: #13 Buck

If I interpret this the way that you with your obviously biased lens wants me too.

Either you have a quote or you don't.

Taking a series of two word quotes and arranging them together is just wrong, wrong, wrong.

It is actually beneath this website. It is like photo shopping pictures to say what you think might have happened.

We used to mock this sort ofWhat do youbtjink the quote means, amd asnsomeone asked yu, bow would you summarize it in a headline? Especially considwring you'd be limited in the number of worda or chsracters you could usw?thing, not upding it!!

18 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:27:13pm

Sometimes I wonder if D’Souza just makes this stuff up as he goes along.

Yes. Yes he does. Would you spend time on this sort of thing? Neither would Dinesh D'Souza.

19 b_sharp  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:41:55pm

Little Buck, still having trouble with comprehension I see.

re: #6 jaunte

D’Souza: "I think what we're seeing is very troubling, we're seeing a real bid by the radical Muslims to do something that they haven't done in 400 years which is to attempt to restore Islam as a global power and they see an opportunity to do this thanks to the Obama administration's complete abdication of responsibility, one by one our allies are falling in the region, one by one our adversaries are coming to power, and Obama doesn't just seem unbothered by this he seems to be actively supporting it."

It's a little long for a headline.

20 jaunte  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:43:47pm

re: #19 Illustrated Inhibitions

Hey, you can't just boldface logically connected elements of a more complete statement!

21 thecommodore  Tue, Sep 18, 2012 1:21:36am

re: #18 SanFranciscoZionist

Sometimes I wonder if D’Souza just makes this stuff up as he goes along.

Yes. Yes he does. Would you spend time on this sort of thing? Neither would Dinesh D'Souza.

Well if he can, why don't I just sit down at my computer with a big bag of weed by my side and a three foot bong, and just make up the most idiotic conspiracy theories about "the Left" I can think of, doing a bong hit every time I finish a chapter. I bet I could knock out 300 pages of schlock in one weekend and make millions as long as I said Obama is a socialist, homos are evil, there is no global warming, etc. etc. etc.

Alas, I have scruples...

22 thecommodore  Tue, Sep 18, 2012 1:24:17am

re: #17 thecommodore

Actually I was going to ask Buck what he thought the headline should be and why. Stupid phone posted before I was ready. Damn touch screen. I yearn for the days of yesteryear when the Blackberry Curve was a state of the art smart phone.

23 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:36:52am

Ah, yes, our faithful allies sold out to fuzzy headed liberal idealism.

"Allies" like the champion kleptocrat Hosni Mubarak, whose main contribution was to, er, re-distribute the protection money we paid him to keep the Camp David Accords.
The first dictator to fall, though, was the pip-squeak Zine El Abidine Ben Ali in Tunisia, successor to Habib Bouguiba. Like Mubarak he was a corrupt grifter, but even less use as an actual ally.
Then there was Ghaddafi, such a good friend that we tried to kill him several times. He promoted terrorism for decades then had the nerve to blame Al Qaeda when the people's wrath caught up with him. Even the most deranged wingnut would not consider him an ally of anyone but Satan.
Good riddance to the whole pack of them.

24 Buck  Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:51:05am

radical Muslims are attempting to restore Islam as a global power.

True or false?

In the vacuum left by the toppled dictator, our adversaries (extremist political parties) are coming to power.

True or false?

The President has not expressed any opposition to the any of the extremist parties coming to power.

True or false?

If you answer false, please back up your argument.

25 garhighway  Tue, Sep 18, 2012 1:47:39pm

re: #10 Buck

You can't assemble the words said and come up with the quote you want.

You would not allow it if someone did that with an Obama speech.

It's not a quote. If the whole thing was surrounded by "", that's a quote. It was a paraphrase or summary, that included in it three phrases actually used and accurately quoted. Was the paraphrase inaccurate or unfaithful to the intent and meaning of the speaker? I don't think so. Did including the phrases make it more faithful to the original? I do think so.

To be clear, are you really arguing that what D'Souza said was misrepresented, or are you arguing that it was accurately represented and you agree with him?

26 Buck  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:09:59am

re: #25 garhighway

Was the paraphrase inaccurate or unfaithful to the intent and meaning of the speaker?

Yes, the paraphrase IS inaccurate AND unfaithful to the intent and meaning of the speaker.

The word GLOBAL is misplaced and used to mean something different than the speaker was meaning.

The word SEIZE, although not quoted changes the meaning of "coming to power".

No where does the speaker say that Obama is actively supporting anyone to seize global power.

Radical Muslims are attempting to restore Islam as a global power AND those same radicals are not being opposed in coming to power (not global) in their countries where the dictators have left a vacuum.


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