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1 HSG  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 4:37:31pm

You don’t seem aware that the law creating this court in its present incarnation was passed by Congress before Obama became president.

You also state incorrectly “a Domestic Intelligence Agency, who [sic] acts on the behalf of President Obama.”

The DIA is a creation of Congress. The administrative branch executes the directives in the law, again created by Congress.

2 Heywood Jabloeme  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 4:47:22pm

Obama signed this law 3 times since he took offcie and voted for it once as a Senator.

The NSA is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Executive Branch and Obama is the Cheif of - High School civics dude.

He doesn’t have to spy.

3 Heywood Jabloeme  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 4:47:52pm

The role of the President in the legislative process is to “propose” and that of the legislature is to “dispose”.

I am sure if a Harvard trained Constitutional Lawyer should the leadership and proposed changing the Patriot Act and the FISA Court laws they would listen - especiall the 23 other Dem Senators that signed the Wyden / Udall letter.

BTW - Wyden supported an amendment in 2010 that made a very modest attempt at more transparency to the process and what came out of President Obama’s White House, “chirp, chirp … chirp” (crikets_.

And then Randall proposes that they ‘moderate’ I think was the term he used. When you use “they” you are actually using a euphemism for PRESIDENT Obama. The President is the Cheif Executive of the US Goverment. He runs the NSA, the legislation doesn’t tell him he has to spy on us it allows him to do so. He could tell Clapper to “moderate” it or even stop it tonight. He could even go so far as issuing an Executive Order to make it illegal until such time as another is issued to make it again leagal.

Of course he won’t - he has signed the law 3 times.

Since he, through his Justice Dept and the NDI, is the only entity allowed to present appeals to the FISA or the FISCR he could do so. Of course, if he had we wouldn’t know about it as both courts and thier findings are secret, due to a law he signed 3 times. But he could tell us, in a nonclassified way, that he tried.

Next the ACLU suit. Remember the DOMA hearing at SCOTUS where he was so against the law that he failed to act as the Executive in Chief and as tradition requires, defend a law of the US Govt. He didn’t send the Solicitor General nor even a brief. Do you think that he will do this when the ACLU case comes up? He could not send a Fed District Attorney General to any hearings and then do the same if it came to SCOTUS. He won’t. Because he has signed the law 3 times, already defended it multiple times in Court and even using the “Kings Cross” defense of “National Secrect” in order to derail one case.

So you can, without any consideration for your self respect, act just like the term Glenn Greenwald coined an, “Obama Worshipper” and look the other way, down play it by making the excuse “everyone does it” or “its really the Congress’ job” or using euphemisms like “they” or “misstatements” but in the end, the facts are, President Obama not only owns this as much as anyone else, he is facilitated in his use of it by right-wing influenced processes and supporters and the stick of it is going to far outlast his presidency.

4 Heywood Jabloeme  Sun, Jul 7, 2013 4:49:00pm

The current laws were not in place before Obama was President.


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