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1 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:00:29am

I want to thank Mary at Skepchicks for alerting me to this story.

2 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 10:50:39am

Fuckers. Sick fuckers.

3 SidewaysQuark  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 11:02:53am

Even the most ardent creationists acknowledge “microevolution” occurred. “Microevolution” is exactly what Hitler was attempting to make happen, not the creation of a “new species”.


4 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 11:26:58am

re: #3 SidewaysQuark

Good question. By their logic, ( more accurately lack of logic ) they support Hitler

5 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 12:43:55pm

re: #4 CriticalDragon1177

Good question. By their logic, ( more accurately lack of logic ) they support Hitler

I believe most of them actually do, save that you can replace ‘Aryan’ with ‘Christian’. Just a different label for the same thing though.

6 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 12:47:53pm

Romantic Heretic

Most Christians are not Nazis, even most fundamentalists Christians.

7 Flavia  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 12:52:41pm

re: #6 CriticalDragon1177

Romantic Heretic

Most Christians are not Nazis, even most fundamentalists Christians.

Of course no one thinks that TRUE Christians are (or ever were) Nazis.

8 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 1:05:00pm

re: #7 Flavia

I never said “true Christians” have never been Nazis, just that most Christians are not. Christian identity is not mainstream

9 Etaoin Shrdlu  Mon, Oct 28, 2013 5:30:45pm

I’m sure Darwin also inspired Plato.

And how can marriages be made most beneficial? That is a question which I put to you, because I see in your house dogs for hunting, and of the nobler sort of birds not a few. Now, I beseech you, do tell me, have you ever attended to their pairing and breeding?

In what particulars?

Why, in the first place, although they are all of a good sort, are not some better than others?


And do you breed from them all indifferently, or do you take care to breed from the best only?

From the best.

And do you take the oldest or the youngest, or only those of ripe age?

I choose only those of ripe age.

And if care was not taken in the breeding, your dogs and birds would greatly deteriorate?


And the same of horses and animals in general?


Good heavens! my dear friend, I said, what consummate skill will our rulers need if the same principle holds of the human species!

Certainly, the same principle holds; but why does this involve any particular skill?

Because, I said, our rulers will often have to practise upon the body corporate with medicines. Now you know that when patients do not require medicines, but have only to be put under a regimen, the inferior sort of practitioner is deemed to be good enough; but when medicine has to be given, then the doctor should be more of a man.

That is quite true, he said; but to what are you alluding?

I mean, I replied, that our rulers will find a considerable dose of falsehood and deceit necessary for the good of their subjects: we were saying that the use of all these things regarded as medicines might be of advantage.

And we were very right.

And this lawful use of them seems likely to be often needed in the regulations of marriages and births.

How so?

Why, I said, the principle has been already laid down that the best of either sex should be united with the best as often, and the inferior with the inferior, as seldom as possible; and that they should rear the offspring of the one sort of union, but not of the other, if the flock is to be maintained in first-rate condition. Now these goings on must be a secret which the rulers only know, or there will be a further danger of our herd, as the guardians may be termed, breaking out into rebellion.

The Republic, Book V

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