“Go back to 1939 when the German Lutheran church turned a blind eye to what Hitler was doing, not all of them: [Deitrich] Bonhoeffer and others and paid for it with their lives but they were not going to compromise and there’s a point at which we have to say we’re there, we’re there,” Dobson said. “It’s not quite as bad as it was then but we see where the train is moving, we see where it’s going.”

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