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1 palmerskiss  Apr 6, 2014 12:57:50pm

two things on this :

The number of rapes per capita in the United States has plunged by more than 85 percent since the 1970s, and reported rape fell last year even while other violent offenses increased, according to federal crime data.

This seemingly stunning reduction in sexual violence has been so consistent over the past two decades that some experts say they have started to believe it is accurate, even if they cannot fully explain why it is occurring.

In 1979, according to a Justice Department estimate based on a wide-ranging public survey, there were 2.8 rapes for every 1,000 people. In 2004, the same survey found that the rate had decreased to 0.4 per thousand.

Is this because people see this less and less today than ever before:

“Women are just seen as trophies, as objects.”

and this:

Nearly 90,000 people reported being raped in the United States in 2008. There is an arrest rate of 25%.[1] According to the National Crime Victimization Survey by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 39,590 men and 164,240 women were victims of rape, attempted rape, or sexual assault in 2008.[2] Of those committed by a single offender, 78.1% were committed by men and 18.5% were committed by women. Of those committed by multiple offenders, 75.7% were committed by only men and 24.3% were committed by both men and women.

I agree with Zerlina - the dehumanization of “female nature” into a “sexual Satisfaction appliance” has been (not always) the historical mountain women have had to climb. I do not agree that todays young people are the problem - as the mountain has been eroded, and the summit is in sight.

just my take.

one interesting trend is the growing trend of female perpetrated sexual assaults - whether on males or females, and whether this is just due to more exposure and greater reporting of the crimes, (which i tend to think is the case) or an actual increase in sexual aggression in some women.

Zerlina is right, though, that the solution to this is the same as the solution to racism/bigotry - humanization.

2 FemNaziBitch  Apr 6, 2014 5:46:39pm

re: #1 palmerskiss

I think men are more aware and are less stigmatized if they report now than in the past. Like women, they do not always realize they have been the victim of a sexual predator.

I do think the tendency of young people to see women as “objects” is the same as ever. Why? Because their hormones are raging and those that are mentoring them are still often in the dark ages. (Steubenville). Young women experiment with their sexuality and do not always understand what that does to young men.

If said young people are 1st or 2nd generation American’s, they are still heavily influenced by the culture from which their family came. Unless we include comprehensive sex ed as part of the immigration process, I don’t think this part will change much.

I think it’s a matter of education and outreach to help them grow into adults with the correct understanding of “consent”.

3 cinesimon  Apr 7, 2014 2:25:04pm

Anyone who thinks ‘the youth’ are the problem, that despite what’s obvious to most people - while there’s a lot to improve, there has also been a lot of progress. Especially among the attitudes of young people, who’re far, far, FAR more respectful of women and people who’re different - there is definitely a commonality there: you hate women? You probably hate gay people and foreigners, too - especially dark-skinned, or big-nosed ones. One only needs to take a look at what are essentially case studies in rape and rape culture in society: Scarborough and Maryville. Yes, kids did bad things. But they were most certainly bred that way. They weren’t influenced by other kids - they were influenced by adults. Very clearly. Their parents and a disturbing amount of adults in those small, conservative towns backed their kids up.
These are the same scumbags who fight against Sharia Law! Really fucked up irony. And far stranger - and more disturbing - than fiction. Conservative America is intentionally breeding an entire generation of sociopaths.
Focus primarily on the kids? Yeah that’s about as effective as the proverbial ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. If parents see no inherent issue with their sons gang raping of an unconscious child, the results are always going to be the same.
Of course kids need to be educated - this includes real, effective sex education(surprise! Conservatives won’t allow that, either!) - but - and this really ought to be obvious to anyone paying attention - the main source of the problem is adults. Adults lead the way, set the tone and boundaries, support their kids, provide positive reinforcement when they do good, and hopefully consequences(including various forms of positive reinforcement) when they do bad. And time and again, we see conservative parents rewarding their kids for rape. And punishing their kids of they don’t hate people enough.
This is, of course, Conservative America-style Christianity - the salve to Islam, the cyst on humanity, apparently.

4 palmerskiss  Apr 7, 2014 3:19:35pm

re: #2 FemNaziBitch

I think men are more aware and are less stigmatized if they report now than in the past. Like women, they do not always realize they have been the victim of a sexual predator.

I do think the tendency of young people to see women as “objects” is the same as ever. Why? Because their hormones are raging and those that are mentoring them are still often in the dark ages. (Steubenville). Young women experiment with their sexuality and do not always understand what that does to young men.

If said young people are 1st or 2nd generation American’s, they are still heavily influenced by the culture from which their family came. Unless we include comprehensive sex ed as part of the immigration process, I don’t think this part will change much.

I think it’s a matter of education and outreach to help them grow into adults with the correct understanding of “consent”.

agreed…


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