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1 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 11, 2014 6:02:09am

Had to unfollow & block this Dudebro moron:

2 EiMitch  Apr 11, 2014 6:37:20am

LOL at anonymous! All their bravado about being tech-savvy just got thrown back in their (now exposed) faces.

re: #1 Pie-onist Overlord

I’d be more disgusted at that guy if he wasn’t such a hilarious icon of his “cause.” He thinks talking big somehow makes him big. But it just shows and small and insecure he is. I would know.

**moment of awkward silence**

Buddhax and co. just exposed these guys as noobs who couldn’t even protect their own webcams. And Punko thinks writing a new, apocalyptic virus is the answer. Su~ure. They can just wave that magic-wand at the keyboard like folks do in the movies. That’ll make it happen.

If Punko is reading this: Anonymous started this “cyberwar.” Anon was playing with fire. Anyone who hacks has no business complaining about being hacked-back. Its an occupational hazard.

3 Pie-onist Overlord  Apr 11, 2014 8:30:45am

re: #2 EiMitch

LOL at anonymous! All their bravado about being tech-savvy just got thrown back in their (now exposed) faces.

I’d be more disgusted at that guy if he wasn’t such a hilarious icon of his “cause.” He thinks talking big somehow makes him big. But it just shows and small and insecure he is. I would know.

>**moment of awkward silence**

Buddhax and co. just exposed these guys as noobs who couldn’t even protect their own webcams. And Punko thinks writing a new, apocalyptic virus is the answer. Su~ure. They can just wave that magic-wand at the keyboard like folks do in the movies. That’ll make it happen.

If Punko is reading this: Anonymous started this “cyberwar.” Anon was playing with fire. Anyone who hacks has no business complaining about being hacked-back. Its an occupational hazard.

Punko has this fantasy of a malicious virus hack that would only affect Israeli computers (it has a built in Juice Detector?) but not something that would get out into the wild and destroy Teh Hole Internetz.

4 EiMitch  Apr 11, 2014 10:20:14am

re: #3 Pie-onist Overlord

I called this hypothetical virus “apocalyptic” didn’t I?

Besides, a virus only affecting the “bad guy’s” computers is just part of the movie magic he seems to believe in. His ignorance demonstrates that he’s not a threat to anyone’s cyber-security. Thats why I can simply laugh at him.

5 palmerskiss  Apr 11, 2014 3:35:19pm

I think it’s worth noting that Anonymous is a diffuse, loosely linked collaborative, and that not all Anonymous actions are of this variety.

I do think the days of the iconic Anon that we know now (the guy fawks-ian Anon) have come to an end - and the movement has really become diluted in the last couple of years - with people usurping the imagery etc for their personal pet issues, and not so much broader civic action.

That is not what happened here - these were ‘legit’ agitators associated with Anon, but they were not particularly associated with with anti-raciasm/anti-bullying, anony-ops, youranonnews, anonyuk,

(i do not support their actions here, but they were legitimately the ostensible hacking arm of ANON)

I have worked with Anon in the past - on some actions - particularly the hacking of freejahar.com, and the baltospectator incident, and with some on disseminating information during the Boston Bombings and its aftermath.

This group is more concerned with using information and data to counter racists and cyberbullies, and schools, organizations that fire, harm, bully people for glbt, race, and other personal issues.

Some Anon members are involved in syria atm, and again they would be a different group than these anti-isreal members.

Not all anon actions are virtuous, and there simply is no way to control a group with no leader and associations in the loosest sense.

6 Dark_Falcon  Apr 11, 2014 5:36:15pm

re: #5 palmerskiss

I hear you but make sure you let your friends in that group know not to mess with Israel, whatever they think of its policies. Because the Israelis don’t have the luxury of playing DERPy games, for them anything that threatens serious communications disruption is a mortal threat. And Israel stomps on mortal threats, HARD.

7 palmerskiss  Apr 11, 2014 5:47:24pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

I hear you but make sure you let your friends in that group know not to mess with Israel, whatever they think of its policies. Because the Israelis don’t have the luxury of playing DERPy games, for them anything that threatens serious communications disruption is a mortal threat. And Israel stomps on mortal threats, HARD.

i think they get the picture - i’m not in any position to warn people certainly, my interactions with anonymous only come in where our interests cross lines - usually in the trolling of trolls, i just wanted to point out that it is impossible to say - Anon did one thing - and it mean anything about who actually perpetrated the actions. The fact of its leaderless, anonymous basis, which is its strongest weapon, is also it’s greatest weakness.

I admire the desire to change the world, and do so in a way where the notoriety, personally does not matter, that the satisfaction of creating change is enough. I find that noble. The noblest things are easy to pervert because virtue is difficult to enforce. I do not think they even want to enforce ‘virtue’ in the normal sense of rigid societal dogma. Another of it’s weak points i suppose.

Anonymous really is only as powerful as people find it’s bark credible. The fact it demands to be taken seriously, at times, makes people take them more seriously than needed. A lot of their power is rhetorical. It works if you believe in it. Like voodoo.

8 CriticalDragon1177  Apr 11, 2014 6:01:56pm

re: #1 Pie-onist Overlord

This actually really makes me think the folks at “Anonymous” are not as professional when it comes to computer hacking as they make themselves out to be. I wouldn’t use a web cam on a computer that I was going to use to hack into another person’s computer, especially one belonging to a foreign government. Yet these guys weren’t smart enough to realize a webcam would be a liability. Even through I’m not a hacker, I would have figured that it would have been possible for the Israeli government to hack into my webcam. Yet the “Anonymous” hackers didn’t even think of that possibility? Thankfully, I have a feeling that Richard Punko is seriously overestimating their capabilities.

9 palmerskiss  Apr 11, 2014 6:04:33pm

re: #8 CriticalDragon1177

This actually really makes me think the folks at “Anonymous” are not as professional when it comes to computer hacking as they make themselves out to be. I wouldn’t use a web cam on a computer that I was going to use to hack into another person’s computer, especially one belonging to a foreign government. Yet these guys weren’t smart enough to realize a webcam would be a liability. Even through I’m not a hacker, I would have figured that it would have been possible for the Israeli government to hack into my webcam. Yet the “Anonymous” hackers didn’t even think of that possibility? Thankfully, I have a feeling that Richard Punko is seriously overestimating their capabilities.

depends on who it is - some are - some are not. Some are myths of their own creation. It is all of that. everything you can say about anonymous, is likely true.

there is an irony there. but really i think this is an existential threat to how much it can affect in the future.

10 CriticalDragon1177  Apr 11, 2014 6:06:42pm

re: #4 EiMitch

I called this hypothetical virus “apocalyptic” didn’t I?

Besides, a virus only affecting the “bad guy’s” computers is just part of the movie magic he seems to believe in. His ignorance demonstrates that he’s not a threat to anyone’s cyber-security. Thats why I can simply laugh at him.

The fact that he would even openly suggest they do so, on an open forum show us how dumb he is. Anyway, I’m certain the Israeli government, like the US government has counter measures to protect their computers from such a virus.


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