Antivirus products are “doomed to failure,” according to Brian Dye, senior vice president for information security at Symantec, a security firm and maker of antivirus products.

From The Wall Street Journal on Sunday, the antivirus giant said that end-point security technology isn’t a “moneymaker” in any way, and highlighted that the company needs to adjust and adapt.

Which isn’t a surprise for Symantec, whose Norton antivirus products have barely made any new dents in the security market in years — despite it being bundled with almost every new Windows computer as premium bloatware.

But what Dye was saying is that the malware market is dwindling and hackers are instead increasingly focusing on cyberattacks, like denial-of-service assaults, spearphishing, and network intrusion, rather than mass-emailing a crafted executable file randomly to millions — including to a burgeoining base of Mac users that are immune to such attacks.

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