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1 Ace-o-aces  Jul 12, 2014 10:33:12am

Of course, none of this will matter to the wignuts. There is a small but vocal group of people who are simply incensed at the idea of poor people eating.

2 KerFuFFler  Jul 12, 2014 2:44:55pm
Food stamp “fraud” (which mainly means trading food stamps for cash, a totally reasonable activity that in a just world would be 100 percent legal without any fees attached to it)

I’m not sure I agree with the idea that food stamps should be traded. I have not thought about it much so I could possibly be persuaded otherwise. The “just world” notion makes me suspect that somewhere an economist has a mathematical proof that the most utils are obtained when all trading is free, free, FREE!——-but that ignores specific problems like recipients spending their foodstamps on booze, tattoos and lotto tickets while their kids go hungry. I imagine making food stamps only good for buying food probably prevents a lot of domestic abuse where the man would clobber the woman for them because the stamps could go towards things that he wanted to buy.

But seriously, a fraud rate of only 1% in such a program is a pretty good record of efficiency!

3 socrets  Jul 12, 2014 5:20:07pm

re: #2 KerFuFFler

Remember, Republicans speak a different language than normal people. By “fraud”, the GOP means that money is going to “those people” in order to feed their kids while poor cash rich corporations aren’t getting enough money to buy their own planet.

4 ausador  Jul 12, 2014 9:54:47pm

“Food Stamps” have not even existed since October of 2002 which was the mandatory Federal phase out date for paper vouchers (stamps).

All states now use an Electronic Benefits Transfer (EBT) card that functions exactly like a debit card and requires the use of a pin number at retail purchase. The EBT card can (only) be used for the purchase of any type of food or beverage grocery item with the exception of heated prepared foods and alcoholic beverages.

The EBT card cannot be used to buy any “non-food” item so quite a few things that perhaps ought to be covered are not. Such as…
Laundry soap
Bath soap
Dish soap
Household cleaning products
Tooth paste
Tooth brushes
Toilet paper
Paper towels
etc.

Back in the days of paper food stamps what fraud there was (which even then wasn’t as widespread as the RWNJ’s believed it to be) came from two main sources.

The first being neighborhood convenience store owners who would let you spend them on booze, cigarettes or other non-food items at around 50-70 cents on the dollar. The second being neighborhood hustlers who had cash in hand on the stamp issue date every month and were willing to give people cash for stamps at a fraction of their face value.

The EBT program has pretty much eliminated the opportunity for those two types of fraud so about all a recipient can do now is to trade groceries for cash. Does it happen? Yes, but it is rarer and not always for the wrong reasons (tobacco/booze), sometimes people just need to buy some toilet paper!

(Note: Many states now also use the EBT system to give qualified recipients with minor children their monthly “cash” credit for public assistance welfare. In that case the EBT card may be used to purchase non-food items like paper and/or cleaning products from their monthly “cash” benefit.)

5 CriticalDragon1177  Jul 12, 2014 10:32:55pm

FemNazi,

This is just about the last thing the far right will tell you about food stamps.


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