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Greenwald Asks: "Are There Any Meaningful Differences Between Ellsberg and Snowden?"

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Dark_Falcon6/13/2013 7:23:23 pm PDT

re: #94 engineer cat

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

there wouldn’t be any need to have passed the “patriot” act at all except to modify the above

if the government can get the metadata for all phone calls made by americans, where is the “probable cause”

but i’ll restate the first question for emphasis: if the 4th amendment is not being revised, what then is the purpose of the “patriot” act?

The 4th Amendment requirement of probable cause doesn’t apply to that metadata, because users do not have an expectation of privacy from the phone company in terms of that data.