re: #130 Jay C
One thing I recall hearing about EST was that the sessions were deliberately designed to make the attendees uncomfortable (no bathroom breaks, frex) - for whatever reason. SOmething to do with getting them to concentrate, or whatever…
I do recall also that every ESTy I ever met seemed to act like an obnoxious asshole on purpose: til I realized that EST was just a way to provide said obnoxious assholes with a formalized psychobabble excuse for their obnoxious assholery: no wonder they cleaned up back in the day.
The guy I used to work for wasn’t an asshole in any way, I liked him a lot actually, but he fully bought into the EST bullshit.
There’s something fundamentally cultish about telling people when they can - and cannot - pee.