re: #95 HappyWarrior

In other words, Republicans want it both ways. Listen RWC, I agree with you strongly that the list has its problems but I also think we have to work with what we have. This shooter in Orlando was on the terrorist watch list wasn’t he? I just personally question the wisdom of having such a list if a suspected and in fact this case domestic terrorist is able to buy guns to commit mass murder which he in fact did. We agree the list needs to be fixed, I think me, you, and the ALCU agree on that but I don’t think the GOP does.

Again I can’t answer for the GOP and I don’t let their motives worry me as I wrote them off long ago. Lets review what we really have- A no fly list that cannot be fixed because that will reveal how we track and come to suspect terrorists. FBI head says due process would reveal sources and methods. I’m not sure I believe him but Congress does. You can’t polish a turd.

What else have we got? Hundreds of gun laws that like just about all the rest of our laws actually comply and do a lot of good. the fact the NRA can force the legislature to not do the right thing by way of universal registration is an awful reason to do what we know is wrong and likely violates our civil protections.

How’d that Patriot Act work out? The 100 mile “border zone” where you can just be driving from San Diego to Yuma and be subjected to a Border Patrol search and seizure of your digital devices without cause? The 4th is so diminished there as to be thin it’s like a just used Budweiser can.

My view? Not just no but hell no. I view these things like many of you do Gitmo and Bush era torture rulings. It might cost me a few dings around here from time to time ‘cause of the gun thing and the impact big attacks have.