And to answer all of you at once:

Yes I know Obama says BOTH things, that is what I said. However that doesn’t work for him any more.

Individual Achievement is the subject.

“Yes but it is not in a vacuum” is trying to have it both ways.

It is like saying that the winner of the race didn’t win as an individual. After all someone made the track and the shoes.

Except that people are looking past the track and the shoes. Everyone in the race used the same track and the same shoes.

Nope, the winner was the winner.

and the successful business owner doesn’t need to give credit to the roads that were built, or the government who invented the internet. Everyone got that. The business owner is just fine believing they worked harder and were smarter than the people who didn’t create the business.