re: #128 HappyWarrior

These aren’t just libertarians though. I expect it from libertarians since libertarianism is a much more absolutist ideology compared to liberalism.

well despite the fact that obama voted enthusiastically for retroactive immunity for telecoms involved in violations of customer privacy when requested by the nsa

before the 2008 election

i find that many of my progressive friends still think that he ran as a progressive and not, as it seemed clear to me, as a corporatist middle of the road democrat

yet despite everything i still support him overall, even with his flaws, since, given the choice, i’d rather be somewhat fucked than have voted to be fucked mercilessly and without ky jelly