re: #162 SteveMcG

I was loking through the text of the new AZ immigration law and a couple of things struck me. I didn’t see anything at all about a non-traffic stop situation, like walking up to a gardener and asking for some documentation. (Maybe I missed it?) Early in the text, it reads: “A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE PERSON’S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).” So which is it, make a reasonable attempt, or don’t make a reasonable attempt and instead verify by whatever means necessary?

The stuff about traffic stops reads: “NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER LAW, A PEACE OFFICER MAY LAWFULLY STOP
21 ANY PERSON WHO IS OPERATING A MOTOR VEHICLE IF THE OFFICER HAS REASONABLE
22 SUSPICION TO BELIEVE THE PERSON IS IN VIOLATION OF ANY CIVIL TRAFFIC LAW AND
23 THIS SECTION”.
“AND”? That doesn’t make any sense, it would seem unlikely that the officer could know the driver was violating the section before the stop. Later, it makes it illeagal to stop to pick up employees (legal or illegal) in a place where it’s illegal to stop your vehicle, vehicle operators are responsible for the status of their passengers (watch out cabbies). I guess that’s the part that many church groups are objecting to. The last ten pages are stuff about employers and their punishmnents. Once agian, I didn’t see anything about non-traffic stops, and even the traffic stop stuff seems confusing

I get a kick out of reading the screeching, fear posts…we will just have to see where this all goes…but since it’s been argued that America is no better than other countries, maybe it’s time to treat illegals in the general manner of other countries