re: #194 Gus 802

The minister from UK will, I think, do the last ditch move. One thing that puzzles me is that the Secretary General is there, and it seems to me that he could, if he really wanted to, open up additional proceedings besides the COP15.

This Accord which Obama et. al. negotiated is the first document in 12 years that has had both the US and all the other major nations, including China, agree to, wrt AGW (or anything else that I can think of… the LOTS treaty maybe the other.) It is feared, I suppose, that if this Accord fails then there is little hope of any others.

There are some here who might cheer that, but I believe in the end it is better to try to do something than nothing.