re: #198 jcm

I have a full sized van, 4 kids mom and dad. I bought the most efficient van possible, it’s the Dodge Sprinter by Mercedes. The 2.5L CDI engine is efficient and very clean. No matter under CA type emission standards that engine is too dirty, never mind it meets European clean air standards.

I’m a home DYI guy. Second vehicle is a full size pickup. With a compact PU I’d be making more trips.

The ijits in DC with their chauffeurs, nannies and other to do all the mundane stuff for them have no clue has to how middle America lives and what they need.

I have a Honda Odyssey van. It only gets about 20 mpg mixed, but I needed something that seated seven (now five), or I would have been driving two cars.

Loaded vs. a loaded “Smart Car”, I get the SAME fuel efficiency in person-miles per gallon.