re: #242 jbolty

You are making my exact point. I was not expressing an opinion on those things. I was just pointing out that simply mentioning them up for discussion brings out the long knives. Then you ascribe bigotry and hate and profit motive for the motivation. Who said anything about brown skinned people?

Uh, you were inferring. You try to be cute about it, but anybody reading your post could immediately figure out where your views were leading to. You brought up the “traditional family” thing, and I responded.

“Who said anything about brown skinned people?”

Virtually every dog whistle caller on Fox News, for starters. The open and blatant hatred of Mexican people (legal immigrants and even natural born citizens included) has been unapologetic and open at a number of town hall events and tea parties. Where have you been hiding? Pat Buchanan’s comments about how we are “losing white America” escape your attention last week?

“Then you ascribe bigotry and hate and profit motive for the motivation.”

The “Goin’ Galt” tea party folks just call it “The invisible hand of the market place.” Remember! Profit is everything and money is your God!

Sorry, but I have heard enough of outright cruelty and contempt for sick, needy people from “conservatives” (I use the term loosely here, since I doubt that many of them could define it other than their own tribal identification) to have an idea that many of them are actually fine with other people literally dieing on the street. Really. No kidding. Especially if they are darker skinned.

I have had conversations with people who literally want to shut down public schools and public hospitals. I have talked with people who INSIST that every poor or needy person deserves every bad thing that happens because they choose to be poor and they like it. I honestly gave up, because it was like trying to talk to people who don’t speak English. We have such fundamentally different notions on what even constitutes civic responsibility and basic decency that we don’t share any actual values at all.

I will tell you this: Who you associate with marks your character. If you associate with groups that espouse hate in veiled ways (or dogwhistles, as they are known, and most ‘secure the border’ outfits are explicitly anti-Mexican), then you can be expect to be considered one of them. If you are going to bring up kids and families, then other opinions will be proffered. If you are not interested in being challenged or debated, find another forum or man up and write your own blog.