re: #265 windsagio

I also, notice that they never mention Germany, which has the oldest universal socialized health care plan in the world! and does exceptionally well in almost all measures of public health, despite losing 2 world wars and 40 years of separation.

Afaik, the examples they use are always the countries that have systems the closest to ours!

And has exceptionally high taxes, and a defense budget subsidized by the US via NATO.