re: #230 lawhawk
I’m seeing mixed reports. Some say 1 of 2 crew survived, but are in rebel territory (which doesn’t quite define who’s actually in control - Daesh? FSA? Others?)
Turkey claims that the Russian jet was repeatedly warned for being inside Turkish airspace and refused to respond. Russia claims that the plane was at least 4km inside Syrian airspace….snip
Distance 4km. Max speed 1600km/hr. Nice margin of error.