re: #258 zombie
Well, it seemed fairly anarchistic to me, according to your link. Self-rule is all well and good, but a substantial portion of the populace needs physical protection by society. Complete self-independence, and/or autarchy, and/or anarchy, is inevitably favored by those who are fit, strong, and capable. But not everyone shares those attributes. If you are in any way enfeebled, you will be victimized in a society without built-in protections for the less-than-vigorous.
So, in other words, you are saying that freedom/liberty only works for the strong, and not for the weak? I say that freedom will enable the weak to be strong.
Governments have NEVER helped the weak to be strong, nor protected them.