re: #305 erik_t
And… the greater Phoenix conurbation represents one of the classic “sprawls” in the American landscape. Even more so than here in SoCal, an automobile is required to simply live there. I know (I snow-birded in Scottsdale for a time).
The street intersections there are so large I used to joke that the Japanese could fit an entire town into one of the intersections in Scottsdale.