re: #31 wrenchwench

As I noted early on in the thread you referred to, I’m no fan of VDH. I do find his positions on many things, problematic. That said, he is hardly an outsider or a marginal academic.

The same applies for MacDonald. She may have ideas people disagree with but her influence is hardly that of an extremist.

See her bio. CATO or the Manhattan Institute may not be your cup of tea, but they are hardly extremist organizations.

They may not be your cup of tea but they are a very legitimate group of academics, analysts and commentators.

In the real world they are certainly mainstream.