re: #332 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

No, he didn’t. He gave a weasel answer to a trap-question and got burned for it. Great. It was not an explicit denial that metadata was being collected, and representing it as such undercuts your argument.

Ah, ‘seemed to imply’. Well thank god we stopped that.

Snowden claimed that it was trivial for him, as an analyst, to get a wiretap on president Obama or any other American citizen. The disproof of this, oddly enough, lies in the slides he released, which show this isn’t true.

He also lied about people being able to watch you as your ideas form on the screen, or rather, he made it sound like that could happen at-will, and not after a warrant, and not if you were a US citizen.

Instead of making shitloads of badly-spelled, terribly argued posts, why not concentrate on writing up an actually convincing narrative, explaining why you’re upset and why others should be without calling people bootlicks, assholes, maniac farters, and the rest? I don’t think anyone has any chance of being convinced by your current incredibly sloppy approach.

Wyden ‘deeply troubled’ by Clapper’s domestic-spying lie

WASHINGTON, July 2 (UPI) — Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., is “deeply troubled” by the top U.S. intelligence figure’s public lie about domestic spying on Americans, the senator’s office said.

Wyden said National Intelligence Director James Clapper’s office within days admitted privately Clapper lied in public testimony at an open congressional hearing March 12, but Clapper refused to acknowledge this formally to the committee for 14 weeks.

The New York Times reported June 11 Wyden knew immediately Clapper’s testimony wasn’t true, because Wyden is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, which receives secret briefings from top intelligence officials, including Clapper.

But Clapper formally corrected the record only 11 days ago, when disclosures by rogue former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden prompted weeks of intense public pressure.

Wyden asked Clapper March 12 if the NSA collects “any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans.”

Clapper answered, “No sir,” then added, “Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect, but not wittingly.”

The rest of your assertions regarding Snowdens claims are only true to poeple who hang out on this thread. Like a bunch of right wing kook climate denyers you have one have one expert on the thread make a claim and then all agree that it must be true.