re: #328 klys (maker of Silmarils)

I don’t really see these things as equivalent.

Having a calm discussion about what texts say, without any effort to convert (and I have never seen that at LGF*), etc., isn’t the same thing as a derogatory comment towards (in this case) believers. The equivalent would be discussion of the evidence that led one to conclude that there is no deity, which I think several Lizards have done respectfully and not received downdings or pushback for.

Just my two cents again.

* I agree there is room to debate what VB is really up to with the pies.

I pretty much agree with this. A rough equivalent to a flat statement by an atheist that all religious beliefs are delusional would be a flat statement by a Christian that all non-believers are going to Hell.

Both are pointlessly offensive in mixed company.