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Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)4/25/2011 9:38:23 am PDT

re: #341 LudwigVanQuixote

And that is a crying shame. We give up our national heritage because we are uncomfortable with being Jews too openly.

The national heritage of Israel is just as much secular Jews as it is religious Jews.

When you speak of Israel, you often speak as though Israel is a wholly religious nation made up only of observant Jews. The truth is very, very different from that.

When you say “us”, you’re not including me, a secular Jew, in that. Nor are you including many, many, many Jews in Israel.

When you say this:

But the real reason - is that G-d gave us that land. And Christians and Muslims know that too. They just like to forget sometimes.

You are leaving every Jewish atheist out of the discussion. Or rather, you’re making a claim that carries zero weight.

Positing Israel’s right to land on religion, rather than on being a democracy with the rule of law, is not a good argument.