re: #366 Aceofwhat?
IMHO, old school Catholics are nowhere in the list of “top X awful things being perpetrated in the (at least ostensibly) name of religion”.
It may have been hard stuff a long long time ago. Evolution counts, imho.
Don’t take my statement as a knock. It’s more a recognition of the seriousness and power of religion. I dropped away from Catholicism very gently, and still donate to support old nuns. The evolution is largely a matter of powerlessness. Given the chance my seminary professors would have gone Catholic Dominionist in a blink.