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Romney Blasts Secularism, Endorses Mixing Church and State

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Gus12/18/2011 5:45:30 am PST

re: #387 Sergey Romanov

Franken, who supported the Iraq war, is not a “leftist hippie” when it comes to these issues, IMHO. So that’s interesting. Still, I would love some official statement to clear things up…

This is from a recent press briefing:

Q You had objections to the defense bill; you’ve dropped them. There’s still a lot of civil liberties experts who are convinced that that bill contains the seed of the future detention of U.S. citizens indeterminately if they’re suspected of terrorism. Are you really that convinced that there was a big enough change that you’d drop an important issue like this?

MR. CARNEY: Well, let me make clear that this was not the preferred approach of this administration, and we made clear that any bill that challenges or constrains the President’s critical authorities to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists, and protect the nation would prompt the President’s senior advisors to recommend a veto.

After intensive engagement by senior administration officials, the administration has succeeded in prompting the authors of the detainee provisions to make several important changes, including the removal of problematic provisions.

While we remain concerned about the uncertainty that this law will create for our counterterrorism professionals, the most recent changes give the President additional discretion in determining how the law will be implemented, consistent with our values and the rule of law, which are at the heart of our country’s strength.

This legislation authorizes critical funding for military personnel overseas, and its passage sends an important signal that Congress supports our efforts as we end the war in Iraq and transition to Afghan lead, while ensuring that our military can meet the challenges of the 21st century.

On the provision in particular that you reference, it does not increase or otherwise change any of our authorities in regard to detention of American citizens. It is simply a restatement of the authorities that were granted to the President in 2001.

Q Is this just a recognition that ultimately the courts would settle disputes like that?

MR. CARNEY: No, the changes give discretion to the President in the implementation of this law. If, as this law is being implemented, the President feels that our counterterrorism professionals are being constrained and that their flexibility is being constrained in a way that does not reflect our values, then he will ask for changes. He will go to the authors of these provisions and ask for legislative changes that are separate from the defense authorization bill.

But again, the changes that were made were sufficient to allow senior advisors to withdraw the recommendation of a veto, but we are still concerned about the uncertainty that this law creates.

It’s a bit troubling to see Mr. Carney respond with “no” to the question, “Is this just a recognition that ultimately the courts would settle disputes like that?” This is simply not true since all legislation and law is subject or open to judicial review. It may not be “decided” in a court of law but there is no doubt that it will one day face a judicial challenge. Mr. Carney seems to have forgotten about the three branches of government.