Obdicut, I so not understand the cause for your incivility, I have been making that same argument throughout this thread. As for being a bigot, according to Johnstone (1993:323) 84% claim no personal religion and 64% do not believe in God Demerath (2001;138). Ironically I point to Japan as a highly funtional secular society- I make no judgements in their character, so I am sincerely confused on why you call me a bigot?