re: #389 McSpiff

re: #377 Bagua

I’m not talking about illegals. I really don’t care about them. Nor do I care about the chronically unemployed. My worry is the increasing number of traditionally well off, traditionally well payed groups being laid off. I’m not worried about someone making $0/year for the last 15. I’m worried about the thousands who were making $70,000/year for the last 15 and are now making $0/year with no fore seeable change. Thats the group I feel you’re ignoring. Again, you really do not want to see the average standard of living fall, or even stop increasing.

Well that’s ok then, but we were talking about the illegals effect on health care and unemployment above, that was the discussion. As far as the folks you are talking about, sure I worry for them as well. Some lose their jobs because the economy is having problems, some because their companies are not competitive, etc. etc.

We can not guarantee everyone lifetime employment, it didn’t work out so well for the Soviets. We can, however, do the right thing to protect and nurture our economy which leads to a broad based prosperity which rising tide lifts all boats. (Well not all, but you get the drift?)

A better economy, less governmental spending and debt, less taxation, less illegals defrauding and bleeding the system, cheaper energy, and we have a formula for prosperity. The opposite and we have a formula for an extended recession.

re: #391 McSpiff

Then the system cannot be saved. If those in power are actively working against us, it’s game over man.

The system is saved by restricting the power and expansion of government.