re: #36 Political Atheist

Put them in the position of choosing another gentler governance is not something to be ashamed of. How it has actually played out is

And so is how we started the goddamn war. WE WERE LIED INTO WAR. The Bush administration lied to the American people and ginned up sympathy for their revenge fantasies and gained supoport for an invasion they KNEW was bullshit. We invaded Iraq, turned their entire country upside down and started an urban war on their streets, with untold numbers of civilians dying in the crossfire. We paved the way for terrorists like Al Qaeda to gain a foothold in the country. Abu Ghraib is a stain on this country’s honor that will never fade.

That’s not something to be proud of. The one good thing is that we’ve managed to at least keep things from fucking up even more than what Bush and Cheney managed when they lied us into war in the first place.