re: #417 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And as a subset of the problems with this: the Catholic church still is very much intolerant towards gays. So how are you reconciling your belief that they’re not really pushing the hell stuff with the intolerance of their anti-gay position?

This is the second time you’ve delivered a really serious blow to your own argument.

I already pointed out the polster who says that lay people don’t believe their own dogma. But that doesn’t mean that the dogma has changed, or that the priests can change it or that the church has changed.

What the lay people believe and what the church believes are totally separate things.