re: #399 BigPapa

Wow, what a way to win friends and influence people.

Thanks :) There are a couple … “interesting” people here. I don’t know why Charles puts up with such mindless trolling.

I find it ironic that you have to prove that religion, or faith, if you will, is evil or unwarranted, or detrimental

I’m not trying to prove anything of the kind, although I’d certainly agree with that statement. I simply asked for an example of something good which could not have been brought about without religion. Next thing I know I’m surrounded by little yapping dogs, trying to bite off my ankles.

The discussion seems to travel over two issues: whether or not there’s a diety, and if religion has had an impact net positive on the human species. Don’t use one to prove the other, that’s a losing proposition.

Absolutely: they’re separate issues. Being true and being beneficial aren’t necessarily the same thing.

If I respect the Jew, therefore, I have to respect the Raealian and bigfoot believer. You’re smart enough to know that’s fallacy. However, the key issue is you can’t see the difference.

You’re right - I don’t see the difference. To me, it’s like people who go around making fun of spoon-benders, and then go home and plan their week based on a horoscope. It’s silly.

Though you know I am atheist, you are forcing me to choose a position of all/none defense of beliefs or religions by pointing to the most absurd examples and making me defend all of them.

I’m not forcing you to do anything - I’m asking you to explain how you make the destinction, because I’m just not seeing it. If you can help me see it your way, that’d be great!

Just get to the point: you don’t respect and look down upon believers. You have absolute blind faith that there is no god and are doing everything you can to convert us to your religion of atheism. Just admit it :)

Yes, I do look down on them, and no, I don’t have blind faith that there is no god. Happy?