re: #436 Jay C

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Yeah, well… Nope.

Some sort of formal deal involving some sort of Ukrainian acknowledgement of the Russian seizure of the Crimea *might* be the only item on that list that would even be remotely doable - maybe.
As for the rest (“demilitarization and denazification”? SRSLY?) - sounds like Vlad’s trying to get the Ukrainians to set up the quisling puppet regime he can’t (so far) impose on them by force.
Who was the Russian rep at these “talks”, The Mouth Of Sauron??

Honestly, no reason Ukraine needs to concede anything at this point: “you go back home, exit our two eastern provinces, and Crimea, and we’ll stop killing you.”