re: #469 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

My point is that if you want to actually convince other people on gun rights, you should have an argument for why gun rights are a positive thing for the individual and society, and not, as you often do, point to the 2nd amendment.

You say this as if I haven’t. How many times does it take?! Let me add another instance here.

When I say for self defense I mean for self defense. Home, work and given cause and a clean record-CCW. I have cited that as a basic human right quite apart from the Bill Of Rights. I view that as a universal right.

When I say for sport I mean for competitive safe fun sporting purposes. see World Speed Shooting Championships. Olympic Target Shooting. We deserve the right to that safe fun sport.

When I say for hunting I mean for hunting. In my view another universal right-Sustenance hunting for those in the proverbial outback. And others of course.

We disagree about the implications of guns and self defense at home. But whether you agree with me or not I have made the point time and again. You view that as a net negative by way of your personal conclusion when looking at stats. I don’t agree with your method or assessment. But again, I made the point, so saying I don’t really is silly at this point.

And yes BTW I cite the 2nd because it happens to be a law that favors my argument. As does a couple SCOTUS rulings.