re: #448 LudwigVanQuixote

No where did I say that military tribunals were a priori wrong.

I have said again and again that these men needed to be tried in a speedy, fair and legitimate manner. The botch that was done under Bush, by purposefully bending, breaking and evading our own principles is part of what needs to be cleaned up now. The fewer questions that we have about the actual guilt of these men, or that we are actually acting the way American ideals say we should the better.

I am so sick and tired of the wingnut meme, that it isn’t torture if we do it, that it isn’t an abrogation of the principles we stand for when we break them or that the law only applies when we say it does.

We destroyed the village to save the village does not wash.

If you want to put the alleged torturers on trial then do so.
That however has nothing whatsoever to do with whether KSM should have a civilian vs a military trial.
Your entire argument about torture is therefore irrelevant.