What’s torture? How far is too far? What bullshit! When you are in the middle of a fire fight none of these idealist arguments come into play. As a man who has been in an actual combat situation (Viet Nam) I suggest you take all your theorizing and shove it. This has been one of the most nonsensical discussions I’ve seen on LGF. It isn’t about what the terrorist do or what the Japanese or the Americans or the Russians or the Germans did. It’s about killing the enemy before the enemy kills you. That is what war is about.