re: #485 charles_martel

I was not trying to justify all the crusades. I explicitly said that they were cruel and horrible events. But to deny that there was warfare, occupation, and war between the Muslim world and Christendom before 1097 is a gross distortion of history.

Nobody did that. You were justifying the Crusades, by attempting to split the very, very fine hair of “Sure, they were badly executed, but the idea was reasonable!”

It wasn’t. Back then, no wars were fought on reasonable grounds, at all. Especially no wars of invasion, looting, pillage, and conquest.

Making it out to be just striking back is moronic.