re: #514 BigPapa

Which sounds like an equivocation that we are just like them. Let’s just cut to the chase and say waterboarding is torture. Let’s say all the fretted over tactics are torture, plain and simple.

Since we torture, and they torture, we are just like them. Is that the depth of what you’re saying? The record shows that we are not just like them. However, if we redefine what torture is, then prove that we torture just like them, it proves that we are just like them. Is that the end of it?

Please then explain what the point is by making this contention.

We are too far apart to discuss this issue. To me, and many other Americans (and not just lefties and Democrats) torture is something Americans just do not do, and it saddens me that others would defend something so against everything this country stands for. McCain WAS tortured and spoke eloquently against the issue.

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