re: #515 iceweasel

Believe it or not, single payer was never going to happen here

With respect… Can you honestly say that if no ruckus at all had been made, with 60-whatever % saying they wanted reform quickly, this 1000-pg. bill would not have passed? I know you say it was not mandating single-payer, but many smart people here have shown how it would have led to an intolerable and uneven field for private insurers. So really? Never going to happen or not going to happen now that the ruckus has been made.