re: #561 Obdicut

Why are you choosing that one meaning out of the four as the ‘literal’ meaning?

tsk, tsk. that was two meanings out of four, and i picked two because the third is redundant and the fourth mentions ‘murder’, which seems a little out of scope.

3) an absolute master

4) to govern, exercise dominion over one

tu comprends?

So your claim is that this passage is not meant to refer to all women, but just those particularly troublesome women? And that it is only in this context that Eve being the one deceived is important?

absolutely. remember, Timothy is a letter to a person, not a general sermon to all christians everywhere. context is vital.

Why were there no female apostles?

Probably because there weren’t women fishermen at the time. But i have a bevy of examples of Jesus specifically acting contrary to cultural norms in order to demonstrate how women were meant to be treated without bias, if you wish.