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Nimed5/03/2010 8:07:51 pm PDT

re: #629 LudwigVanQuixote

Apples and oranges in an utterly false comparison.

1. The Israelis are not trying to wipe out the Palestinians. The US wiped out many Native American peoples completely.

No disagreement here, there’s just no comparison.

2. The Native American peoples were numerous and diverse. You can not lump them into one group or political entity.

That is a difference. But I fail to see how it’s relevant for our discussion. We can discuss isolated tribes, if you prefer.

3. Many Native Americans tried to negotiate in good faith only to have America ignore and renounce treaties. Remember how Oklahoma was supposed to be an Indian reserve? Israel keeps its treaties, while the Palis have yet to show any signs of even wanting one.

Native American tribes also broke treaties. And, while there’s no official treaty, Israel does build settlements in land that was not annexed (at least officially) in the Six Day War, right?

4. The Native Americans as a whole were far more civilized.

I don’t really know what to say to this. We don’t agree, but this is besides the point, unless you think that less civilized people deserve worse treatment.