re: #27 calochortus
I suspect engineers think they are scientists. You can certainly be a scientist and an engineer, but the two are in no way synonymous.
i don’t think i’m a scientist: scientists find stuff out, engineers design and build things
we had some math professors teaching us some of the computer science courses back in the jurassic when i was in school - they kept on asking us for proofs. we rebelled - we’re engineers, just tell us how the math machine works and tell us which crank to turn to get the answer!
i find the occasional wingnut engineer out here in smellycon valley, but they are few and far between. i don’t think it’s engineers that are the problem, it’s that in wingnut country everybody is a wingnut, and just being an engineer doesn’t make you smarter than anybody else