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Changelog: On Torture

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Obdicut (Now with 2% less brain)11/04/2010 7:06:47 pm PDT

re: #758 researchok

My narrative is not fiction. In fact, it is certainly well in the realm of possibility in many places all over the world.

Your narrative is a fiction. You imagine you would understand the results of the phone call. You do not consider that the consequences might be worse, that you might torture someone to call off an attack and the result of that might make things worse, might make the attack worse, might cause the deaths of more.


But now I will press you- would you have bombed the camps in 1942?

No. More Jews would have died if I had. They were killing them in the fields, in the villages, wherever they found them. The camps were an obscene perversion, but they were also a waste of resources. If the Nazis hadn’t built the camps, they could have killed far more Jews.

What I would have done is drive much harder and much faster through Europe. And gone with Patton.

You are not thinking things through, in the least, because you have reduced this to an emotional narrative. It is severely disappointing.

In your narrative, you can always be sure that after you’ve tortured him, the rebel general’s phone call will call off the attack, that he won’t speak code words to let his aides know that he’s being tortured. In your narrative, bombing the camps would stop or hinder the killing.

If only the world was so simple.

But it is not.